cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/3376057

I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn’t the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.

  • frippa@lemmy.ml
    128·
    11 months ago

    Fuck Adobe, not supporting Linux, and now not even supporting Firefox, the once most used browser? Whoever pirates their crappy software deserves a statue.

          • wvstolzing@lemmy.ml
            15·
            11 months ago

            The pdf standard is open, though criminally bloated. Their pdf software (‘pro’ as well as the freemium ‘reader’ which looks like adware nowadays) is used only because it’s the most lenient with respect to files barely complying with the ‘standard’ – which includes things like application forms from government agencies.

            … that is, if they can be said to ‘own’ the pdf format, it’s only because they smeared it all over with their shit. A bit like how hippos mark their territory, I guess.

              • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
                5·
                11 months ago

                Yup, I know Okular (KDE’s PDF tool) at least works. I don’t know if it works on Windows or macOS, but I’m sure there are other tools that do.

                • wanderingmagus@lemm.ee
                  4·
                  11 months ago

                  Thanks! I’ll look it up and try it out. Getting real tired of having to use shady web apps to get around something I have to do regularly as part of my job but for some unfathomable reason isn’t a default app on every computer where I work.

      • frippa@lemmy.ml
        21·
        11 months ago

        Normalize using pirated proprietary software for professional work😉

  • HiddenLayer5@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1251·
    11 months ago

    “Whoa there!”

    Go fuck yourself with that fellow kids corporate speak. That pisses me off so much, way more than it probably should.

  • onlooker@lemmy.ml
    85·
    11 months ago

    Any software company that uses monthly subscriptions as their business model can fuck right off. Let us own what we buy.

    • EonNShadow@pawb.social
      14·
      11 months ago

      Unfortunately they’re still a default app in the business world. Basically everyone at least uses Reader if only because it’s what people expect when they open a PDF.

  • finder@sopuli.xyz
    67·
    11 months ago

    Are we surprised that Adobe is doing this? Adobe is exactly who I would’ve suspected adapting this bullshit immediately.

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
    651·
    11 months ago

    This is the main issue with that web DRM “security” shit that Google is trying to push. They have such a great market share now that big websites can now afford to put a check “only for Chrome” losing a very small percentage of users

    • merthyr1831@lemmy.world
      12·
      11 months ago

      Not that the DRM thing isn’t going to fuel this behaviour but this is already possible with the current browser specs. The DRM shit will just make it worse.

    • CuriousGoo@beehaw.org
      1·
      11 months ago

      This very small percentage of users anyway would be privy to alternative to Adobe’s stack ?

      Concern will perhaps be mainly for getting new users on FF/other browsers from Chromium.

    • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.worldEnglish
      5·
      11 months ago

      I haven’t checked, but I’d guess it’s because of some non-standard feature that only Chromium supports, not because of user-agent.

      • 6xpipe_@lemmy.world
        13·
        11 months ago

        In my experience, companies typically use this message because they only officially support/test on the listed browsers. They block out any other browser to cut down on support emails. If you spoof your user agent so the site thinks you’re using a supported browser, somewhere between 95%-100% of the functionality will usually work just fine.

        • WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world
          6·
          11 months ago

          That’s what our devops team does. All of my company’s internal web apps are tested against chrome only and that’s all that’s supported. It will usually work with Firefox so it’s not a big deal unless you have an issue and they find out you’re not using Chrome.

        • deejay4am@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          11 months ago

          Companies should test to open web standards and tell users to file a ticket with their browser devs if something breaks because of nonstandard behavior.

    • Matengor@lemmy.ml
      18·
      11 months ago

      I tried Gimp for a longer time, too, but I could not get used to the complicated layer management, missing layer effects & layer adjustment features. I will try out Affinity.

      • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
        2·
        11 months ago

        Unfortunately not because it’s not a normal exe file but it’s installing as a side loaded “windows store uwp app” (I don’t know the exact term)

    • Efwis@lemmy.zipEnglish
      6·
      11 months ago

      > Huge learning curve and a lot of missing features.

      I have found most of the “high learning curve” is based more on work flow. Muscle memory can screw with you when trying to learn a new piece of software. I used to use Dreamweaver back in the day when I was on winblows, made the switch to Linux started using bluefish and had to change my work flow which was hard to learn because I was indoctrinated in the way dreamweaver worked. Actually had to relearn some aspects of web design since I had gotten used to the convenience of dreamweavers macros that were pre-installed

    • swellow the sun@lemmy.sdfeu.orgEnglish
      62·
      11 months ago

      It’s not an one-time purchase. I bought Affinity Photo for this purpose and then they released Affinity 2, and it wasn’t a free upgrade for Affinity 1 owners.

      I’m not buying Affinity 2 and buying every new release just like Parallels do. I’d rather stick with the old version or take a shot on Gimp instead.

        • fuzzzerd@programming.dev
          1·
          11 months ago

          Yes you can. Paying for a major upgraded version is the alternative to an evergreen subscription, but allows you to milk more usage out of your purchase if you don’t need the latest and greatest.

          Expecting a one time purchase to entitle you to updates forever is asinine.

  • valkyre09@lemmy.world
    47·
    11 months ago

    Not supporting Firefox is WAY down the list of crimes Adobe has committed against their customers. I’m not all surprised by this post

  • BillTheTailor@lemmy.ml
    443·
    11 months ago

    There isn’t anything that Adobe charges money for that you can’t find an open source alternative.

  • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
    34·
    11 months ago

    Are you kidding - they basically invented the problem. They were one of the first to move to the “rent your software” model way back when