You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.

They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.

I share a lot of my experience here.

https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel

My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?

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    Coded language like that may not sound misogynist to you, but so many people use it in a misogynistic way that by saying it you are identifying yourself with misogyny whether you want to or not.

    Also, sex isn’t a marketplace. People are not products to be consumed, bought or sold.

    There is a reason women reject a lot of men, and it’s not because they’re rolling in good dick. It’s because they are afraid of being killed for a start.

    I would recommend you spend more time figuring out where your real problems come from. They don’t originate with half of all people, they originate in capitalism and patriarchy. That doesn’t mean the problem is “men”. Patriarchy is bad for men too.

    Edit: locked thread, I’ll leave my reply here for anyone who finds this thread, then I won’t keep replying:

    Well you’ve stopped calling it a marketplace, that’s progress. You ignored the fact that for men the stakes are “will I get laid” whereas for women the stakes are more like “will I be murdered”, which itself is a kind of misogyny.

    “Institutionalised monogamy” generally looks like women being the property of men, so that’s pretty misogynist. Without looking it up, this is Jordan Peterson, yeah? The guy who wants no “compelled speech” for himself (he lied about that bill btw), but also thinks there should be enforced monogamy?

    Also, even that quote is describing a patriarchy. Why does one man have more power than a bunch of other women and men? Is it because there are more wealthy men than women in our society? That’s how patriarchy works.

    If you really think JP is so great, you should spend some time actually seeing what his critics have to say about him:

    https://youtu.be/hSNWkRw53Jo?si=VsvopTHa5LfTcI-M

    Don’t worry, it’s only brief (don’t look at the timestamp)

    Also, don’t tell me what I would and would not do. You don’t know what’s in my mind, and it’s especially weird that you said what you did about me given that the first thing I said was that state violence is bullshit. The fact you feel the need to invent parts of my position to argue with speaks to a profound insecurity about your ability to argue with a real person.

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      lol just a description of the sexual landscape and it’s polygynous turn is misogyny. and then you run to the government to ban spaces were those ideas are discussed. i bet you’d call him misogynist too