yeap, uplifting. Again.

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    The context is certainly relevant. Your comment dehumanizes and objectifies her. You insinuate that events were imposed upon her.

    My comment recognizes her own role. She was able to affect her own destiny, by making decisions and taking actions affecting herself and those around her.

    You would deprive her of the effectiveness of her acts, rendering them meaningless. You would strip her of her agency.

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      I would say that the people who imprisoned her and forced her to give birth inside a prison and to give up her baby were the ones stripping her of her agency in a much more material manner. It’s not wrong to say what’s happening.

      It’s incredible how far you’ll go to dance around the issue and not address the fact that the society we live in absolutely creates the situation described above, where it is inevitable that some percentage of people will wind up there.

      You’re just not interested in acknowledging that that is a problem at all, are you?

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        4 months ago

        Nah, they are only taking her freedom. You are the one stripping her of her agency. You’re taking away even the possibility of consequences. You’re treating her as an infant, or as the legally insane, incapable of distinguishing between right and wrong, and thus necessitating protection from ever having to decide between the two.

        Until you address the actual circumstances of her incarceration, we can make no determination as to whether she is a victim. Until we can evaluate her role, we cannot determine whether she is perpetrator of crime or victim of injustice.

        Pregnancy is not exculpatory evidence.