• silence7OPM
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    If we actually succeed, we end up with a decarbonized electric grid too, and the big EV’s emissions drop to zero.

    I do agree that huge vehicles should be discouraged for personal transport, but that’s for livable-cities reasons, not climate.

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      3 months ago

      Hummer EV is literally worse for the climate.

      This isn’t even some “theory” I’m trying to show you. Its real. This is a real vehicle that’s causing more pollution right now in our country and world to measurable effects.

      If we actually succeed, we end up with a decarbonized electric grid too, and the big EV’s emissions drop to zero.

      Lithium is made by pouring acid down mountains and collecting the acid that leaks out. There are incredible environmental effects you need to account for in the creation of EVs, even if we had a 100% decarbonized grid.

      In fact, a 100% decarbonized grid would likely favor H2 (Hydrogen) vehicles since those have fewer environmental effects in the production process. And H2 can be made out of just electricity and water.

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        3 months ago

        The number of hummer EVs being built is tiny.

        You’re concern trolling at this point.

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          Hummer EV is just to make you think about your stupid argument. Here’s my real argument:

          https://www.aceee.org/greener-cars

          Prius is literally better than EVs for the environment. You can’t get rid of these hybrids, they’re surprisingly good for the environment.

          Banning the #1 best vehicle for the environment because they don’t conform to your “insane” idea of environmentalism is stupid. Actually run the math, actually calculate the environmental effects of various metals and the real world turns out to be more complex than braindead “duh go EV” arguments.

          You have to run the math, its not as easy as it looks to make good environmental decisions.