Nobody is blocking you from it. You can go find an instance that doesn’t defederate. You can make an account with them. Literally nobody is stopping you.
If the admins of your instance agree it should be defederated and you disagree, then I guess that instance isn’t a good fit for you.
This isn’t like… a difficult concept, so I have to ask what it is about it that you’re struggling with.
apparently they were manipulating votes, banned for it on my instance at least. i didn’t even know that was a thing, which makes all this defederation discourse so much more depressing !?
no clue of how. i just noticed a suspiciously symmetrical jump in the numbers and i reported it off a hunch. i wasn’t at all sure until my admin dm’d me to confirm i was right (i assume admins can see the IDs and times of votes and triangulate off that but that’s just a guess)
Super interesting, I’ve heard often you can catch cheaters more in the data than in the specific act. So do you mean that you just noticed the sudden +4 / -4 jump? If they all came from the same IP address then that would probably be enough, I guess.
yeah i just saw a good dozen or so comments across a few threads with a very obvious +6/-6 gotten within a few minutes where there had ben no votes before. im sure if you plot that data out compared to real activity it becomes pretty clear there’s something fishy. and an IP would certainly help too.
again no idea what kind of mod tools lemmy has this is all just conjecture on my part. but quite interesting!
Fascinating… this is what i feel this thread had happen. Some of these comment chains had tankies downvoted and sanity upvoted by 3+ margins that mysteriously flipped to 6 point margins the other way within only 3 hrs. And the sheer amount of comments on here ballooned as well. I know they follow some of us around. They can claim theyre arguing one thing or the other, but its always to spread FUD and push non-voting or third party voting in the states. Its all about fucking up our election to install our own shitty dictator before our demographics in the country shift so hard the gop never get a chance to take the oval office ever again.
If u point that out ahead of time, tho, they mass downvote u and act like ur a conspiracy theorist.
Nobody is blocking you from it. You can go find an instance that doesn’t defederate. You can make an account with them. Literally nobody is stopping you.
If the admins of your instance agree it should be defederated and you disagree, then I guess that instance isn’t a good fit for you.
This isn’t like… a difficult concept, so I have to ask what it is about it that you’re struggling with.
Ohh, the “no you!” H hit me in the feels!
If you can’t even be bothered to write a coherent sentence then I have to say I’m not too concerned about what you have to say.
apparently they were manipulating votes, banned for it on my instance at least. i didn’t even know that was a thing, which makes all this defederation discourse so much more depressing !?
Oh wow… vote manipulation how? Like using alts or something else? How do you detect this? I am so curious now.
no clue of how. i just noticed a suspiciously symmetrical jump in the numbers and i reported it off a hunch. i wasn’t at all sure until my admin dm’d me to confirm i was right (i assume admins can see the IDs and times of votes and triangulate off that but that’s just a guess)
Super interesting, I’ve heard often you can catch cheaters more in the data than in the specific act. So do you mean that you just noticed the sudden +4 / -4 jump? If they all came from the same IP address then that would probably be enough, I guess.
yeah i just saw a good dozen or so comments across a few threads with a very obvious +6/-6 gotten within a few minutes where there had ben no votes before. im sure if you plot that data out compared to real activity it becomes pretty clear there’s something fishy. and an IP would certainly help too.
again no idea what kind of mod tools lemmy has this is all just conjecture on my part. but quite interesting!
Fascinating… this is what i feel this thread had happen. Some of these comment chains had tankies downvoted and sanity upvoted by 3+ margins that mysteriously flipped to 6 point margins the other way within only 3 hrs. And the sheer amount of comments on here ballooned as well. I know they follow some of us around. They can claim theyre arguing one thing or the other, but its always to spread FUD and push non-voting or third party voting in the states. Its all about fucking up our election to install our own shitty dictator before our demographics in the country shift so hard the gop never get a chance to take the oval office ever again.
If u point that out ahead of time, tho, they mass downvote u and act like ur a conspiracy theorist.
Actually looking at those mod logs it looks like a bunch of “davi” accounts across multiple instances. I guess it was just alts.
Likewise. Enjoy your day.