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    1. The average vegan diet is safer/less deficient than the standard american diet. Most major diet orgs agree a well planned vegan diet is appropriate for all stages of human life
    2. The cheapest foods are vegan - grains, legumes, starches. and they get you the majority of the way to a balanced diet. It’s not that hard or expensive to get from them to a 100% well rounded diet
    3. Just let the grazing animals live please. Live and let live, so long as it harms none do what you wish, etc. Buffalo/etc don’t need humans to make them go to certain spots to graze
    4. most crops go towards feeding animals in animal agriculture. Less crop deaths is better, so if you actually want to reduce them you should go vegan and/or grow your own food

    i agree that many vegans have wacky/woowoo/incorrect beliefs and it’s a real shame, but a broken clock is right twice a day

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        1. I don’t have time to look up the research on this stuff, I know that last I checked the first point is documented on the wikipedia page for veganism (i.e. It links to the statement by the dietetic orgs).
        2. It’s not hard or very costly to get from those to a complete diet without animal products
        3. I don’t know enough about to say with certainty, but I’m pretty sure most farmland is not grazed.
        4. should be pretty easy to find info on, look up how much of our crops go to animal feed. If I’m wrong I’m happy to read studies that show we don’t do that, but the studies I’ve read inform my position. Due to how trophic levels work, animal products are always going to be an inefficient source of calories