I keep having my phone completely drained of battery over night, and im not sure why… Each night the phone will easy chew through 30-40% battery. Only thing that helps is putting it in battery saving mode. But feels like a temporary solution.

The second most used app is at 7% percent usage.

Am running GrapheneOS, anyone else struggling with this?

  • Wolfram@lemmy.worldEnglish
    30·
    9 days ago

    It’s a known issue with tailscale. It drains my battery pretty bad as well. I had to opt for wireguard for remote access instead.

    • Sunny' 🌻OPEnglish
      81·
      9 days ago

      Ah that’s a shame, I love using Tailscale 🙁

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      I’ve seen these kinds of issues over the years with different tools on a variety of phones. It’s so hard to know what the root cause is.

      Some phones are just fine,others eat batteries, even when on the same versions of Android and the app.

      Sometimes it’s just so hard to figure out.

  • proceduralnightshade@lemmy.mlEnglish
    141·
    9 days ago

    I’m on Graphene too and I once read that the modems used in Pixel phones are pretty trashy and drain a ton of battery. If I filter my battery usage by system, it shows that network standby almost consumes half of my battery charge (~46%).

    Maybe the other guy here is right and it’s a VPN issue (too)? idk. Anyway, I didn’t really found a solution for this except leaving my phone on airplane mode at night.

    • Sunny' 🌻OPEnglish
      6·
      9 days ago

      Ah thanks for pointing that out, I did the same and see that my Mobile Network usage stands for 68% of my battery usage… Yikes!

  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
    9·
    9 days ago

    Well, it has to run in the background. That said I haven’t noticed a significant uptick in battery consumption. The battery consumption you see might be from something else.

    • Sunny' 🌻OPEnglish
      3·
      9 days ago

      I wonder what causes it really, didn’t use to happen, but seem to be a common problem for many.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        9 days ago

        Could be anything. What I do to reduce the possibility of some app going haywire in the background, I restrict background usage to all apps that I’m sure I don’t need to run in the background. Obviously Tailscale isn’t one of them because I need it. 😅 Also I started using Shelter to put untrusted apps like WhatsApp into a work profile and completely disable them when not in use. I haven’t had many battery drain incidents since then.

  • sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    9·
    9 days ago

    I’m on Graphene. Mullvad is only 1% for me with 16h30min since last on a charge. I’m at 56% with 1h30m screen time.

    I used GPS as I did some driving with maps and my music app accounting for 29% of my battery usage.

    I throw my phone on the charger at night figuring battery tech and software management is good enough.

    Are you WiFi or mobile? I get shitty mobile service so if I’m off WiFi my battery tends to go to shit. The VPN usually accounts for more as I assume it keeps reconnecting.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
      9·
      9 days ago

      Wasn’t a big issue with Graphene that it doesn’t support any form of smart battery charging?

      And before the responses pour in, yes, I’ve read https://akc3n.page/posts/battery-management/. And no, there is not a quoted source for a device skipping maintenance mode at 80%, or to refute the many studies showing the benefit to lithium cells, or to cover wireless or non-PD charging. When a “solution” is using a smart plug with HA to stop charging, it’s still an issue.

      Edit: I do like GrapheneOS. This is just a decision I don’t agree with.

      • sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        9 days ago

        This is news to me. That said, I’m usually one generation behind but upgrade every 2 years as my phone is usually EOL for software updates by the end of the period. I try to time it so I can get a replacement paid outright at mid-range prices.

        With the Pixel 8 introducing extended software support, I’ll have to dig more into this.

    • Sunny' 🌻OPEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      Indeed, I think ur right my mobile network usage is 68%… So I’ll avoid using that over night.

    • Sunny' 🌻OPEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      I can’t recall it being an issue previously… 🙁

  • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    8 days ago

    First, find a good battery stats app. The factory stuff often isn’t granular enough. I use GSAM, because I’m lazy, my phone isn’t rooted, and it’s good enough.

    Second, make sure whatever apps your using across TS aren’t doing something during this time. I have to carefully configure sync apps (Syncthing, FolderSync) to be sure they don’t use TS unintentionally.

  • Maya@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    38·
    9 days ago

    After checking on tailscale privacy policy, I also suggest to drop tailscale and use mullvadvpn if you live in EU or US (it is great) or protonvpn. You can install WG Tunnel from F-Droid and add wireguard configuration from your VPN provider as well. It is consume only 1-3% during the day on my device.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.itEnglish
      14·
      9 days ago

      It’s not comparable. Tailscale creates a virtual network between your devices allowing to reach your server outside your home while other mentioned services create a virtual network to someone else’s server

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      9 days ago

      If you want to preserve privacy while utilizing Tailscale’s functions beyond a VPN, one can deploy Headscale on their own infra and be free from any spying.

  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    410·
    9 days ago

    This seems to be a normal issue with VPN apps on Android, they drain battery like crazy

      • Sunny' 🌻OPEnglish
        4·
        9 days ago

        Tailscale isn’t a classic vpn such as Proton and Mullvad. Tailscale crates a network between your own devices, but has Mullvad as an integration for those who want to run Mullvad as an exit node. I don’t need a vpn to mask my location, I need it to connect my devices together. I’ll look into using just wire guard instead though.

      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        9 days ago

        No idea about those, but wireguard and openvpn were terrible for battery life, only ever used if I needed to access something at home

        • sunzu@kbin.run
          1·
          9 days ago

          As the apps or as the VPN service?

          I run both via VPN app and i have similar results to @astrsk

            • sunzu@kbin.run
              1·
              9 days ago

              ohh i see. i was walking phone.

              aint router CPU super underpowered? and it would manage a lot of move traffic?

              • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                1·
                9 days ago

                Nah don’t see that being factor, the small Mikrotik is handling it very well for my small homelab, and pfsense was running on stupidly overkill 8c16t / 32gb memory because didn’t have any more fitting hardware at that point

                Edit: the huge battery drain was on phone, with VPN client