• Mysteriarch ☀️
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          Read up on the history of… any emancipatory movement, really. Civil disobedience, strikes, direct action, have all involved some forms of violence (be it so-called vandalism, or direct confrontation between groups). Many in reaction to violence by the state or corporations (Battle of Blair Mountain!). Thinking we will achieve far-reaching goals without resorting to some sort of radical actions is ludicrous.

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          You’re also supposing that this climate crisis that the governments are currently inflicting on their people is not violence. And that the police beating protesters is not violence.

          It is violence, and we should be able to defend ourselves.

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            It blows my mind that more people don’t realize that police presence is a symptom of lack of representation. Healthy, content, and comfortable individual don’t need to be policed. Discontent comes from injustice.

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      There are three kinds of violence.

      The first, the mother of all others, is institutional violence, the kind that legalizes and perpetuates domination, oppression and exploitation, the kind that crushes and crushes millions of people in its silent, well-oiled machinery.

      The second is revolutionary violence, born of the desire to abolish the first.

      The third is repressive violence, whose aim is to stifle the second by becoming the auxiliary and accomplice of the first violence, the one that engenders all the others.

      There is no greater hypocrisy than to call only the second violence, pretending to forget the first, which gives birth to it, and the third, which kills it."

      This is a summary of an idea developed by Helder Camara

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      Violence happens to people, not property.

      Direct action against climate change turns violent when the state uses violence to stop it.

      Bringing violence to bear against a situation is how states excersize power, because the power of the state IS literally just the ability to deploy violence.