Onionket 5 is This Weekend, August 19th and 20th

The 5th Onion Comic Market (or “Onionket”) is coming up this weekend, and the event catalog is available for everybody to browse now. Over a dozen artists, writers, coders, and more share their work with the world, free from the fear of censorship.

Onionket is a decentralized, censorship-resistant online doujin/art festival hosted exclusively in the Dark Web. Onionket gives artists a SIMPLE, FREE, and CENSORSHIP-RESISTANT way to distribute their work. Using an open-source program called “OnionShare”, each artist creates and hosts their own simple .onion website on the Tor network. Onionket collects and publishes a catalog of these links, allowing others to browse and access them.

Each site is totally under the artist’s control, making censorship impossible. And being on the Tor network means heightened privacy for fans and artists alike. Many artists also have support links and wallet addresses for Monero and other cryptocurrencies, should any followers feel like supporting their work.

There’s also the official Onionket 5 Livestream, hosted on PeerTube on Saturday, August 19th, from 2pm to 4pm, and again from 9pm to 11pm JST. Chat with circle owners and other participants will be available in the live window, as well as an OnionShare-powered Tor chatroom, a Session Closed Group, and an XMPP chatroom over Tor provided by our friends at Libreshack

https://peertube.anon-kenkai.com/w/fw3FVDxM8VYZsUTMBSJsJv

The Onionket 5 catalog is now available on our main site, as well as mirrors on a noJavaScript page, a Tor onion site, and an i2p eepsite. Check out the circles, and if you see something you like, feel free to visit over the two days of the event.

Join Onionket, and together we can say NO to censorship

HOMEPAGE
https://onioncomic.market/catalog/

NoJS
https://onionket.com/catalog.html

TOR
http://cfxnvps5mxzdfh7aw5gwhhx2hmbr5vbww4m4m3znk6sjxnrd6l7bvnid.onion/catalog.html

I2P
http://onionket.i2p/catalog.html

@monero

  • mister_monster@monero.town
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    11 months ago

    As much as I like the use of Tor, Monero etc I can’t help but think this is just marketing for a bunch of child molesters to distribute sexualized drawings of small children. That’s what this is, right? Besides using monero, which is just like using cash, how is this relevant to the Monero community?

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      11 months ago

      I can see your point + I know nothing about this OnionKet thing. Generally, though, afaik, Dōjinshi is not a kid porn, abusing real-life, existing children. Those stories are typically based on manga/anime, where characters are totally fictional, unrelated to real-life children at all (thus no real victims, except ethical questions are still possible). In some countries, drawings of non-existing (fictional) persons may be still illegal. In some other countries, they’re legal (as in Finland, maybe). That’s what I think, though not too sure and I’m not a dōjinshi writer/reader at all. Honestly, not sure how “bad” they are.

      But generally, it’s a nice thing that creators try something new, something experimental, fighting back against excessive, censorship (not to say, it’ll be absolutely good, though).

      @onionket_staff@mitra.anon-kenkai.com よく分からないけど、うまくいくといいですね^^ 弾圧の口実を与えないように、あまりにアレなのは排除した方がいいかもみたいな気もするけど。。。とりあえずグッドラック♪

      • mister_monster@monero.town
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        11 months ago

        Oh I’m aware that it’s victimless, entirely fictional and so not morally wrong. But it does tell me something about the individuals who partake and so I am free to make my own judgments about people. I think, if I took bets that the individuals who enjoy it also would (or do) enjoy children sexually I’d probably come out ahead financially. I don’t like those kinds of people.

        Besides, I still fail to see how it’s relevant to discussion about Monero.

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          11 months ago

          Making such bets on people you know nothing else about shows how much of a shallow judgmental person you are

          • mister_monster@monero.town
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            11 months ago

            OK well you enjoy stumbling through life with no heuristics, I’m gonna make sure my kids don’t get fucked. If I misjudge a few people along the way, what does my opinion matter to them anyway.

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              11 months ago

              “If I offend other people by implying that they wanna molest children even though I know nothing about their lives, personalities or socio-economic backgrounds them so be it! What does my opinion matter to them?”

              Yeah, great use of using one single variable in your heuristics there. I’m sure that’s how scientists conduct their research

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                11 months ago

                I don’t give a fuck if I offend someone. And you don’t either, these drawings offend plenty of people, I don’t see you changing your tune about them. Nobody should ever give a fuck if they offend someone.

                Look man, if youre going to tell me that my heuristic is coming out of left field you’re delusional or disingenuous or both. I do know something about their lives, I know that they enjoy drawings of children getting fucked. I don’t think it’s a stretch to conclude that the percentage of child molesters in that set of people is probably higher than ambient.

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                  11 months ago

                  It is a stretch. Researchers can’t even find a conclusive link between watching actual child porn and actually molesting children (emphasis on ‘actual’, not even ‘fictional’).

                  And you’re here telling me that you are more intelligent than them in deciding whether such a link exists or not.

                  You either have done no research when basing your ‘heuristics’ on, or you are deliberately ignoring it and just trying to call people that commit a victimless crime “child molesters” because of your “heuristics”.

                  Man, I sure wish the police would also use shoddily designed heuristics to decide when to arrest a person

        • Saki@monero.town
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          11 months ago

          True. It’s not much related to Monero. OP only says, “Many artists also have support links and wallet addresses for Monero” i.e. “accepting donations in Monero” which is nothing notable. (Many devs accept donations in XMR.) If they like Monero, that is good (though nothing more)…

    • オニオンケット公式@mitra.anon-kenkai.comOP
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      11 months ago

      @mister_monster Given the Monero community is made up of individuals, I’m sure each one of them will be happy to make up their own minds about how relevant this is or is not. But if the Monero Town administration asks us not to post here, we’ll happily respect their wishes.

      Our personal feelings are that Monero is the best choice of privacy-respecting online digital currency, and we encourage its use as part of the event. The Onionket Mitra, which factors into the event, is also set up to use Monero exclusively for monthly subscriptions… we are essentially an XMR powered Patreon for our participants. I imagine that would be of relevance to the Monero Community as well:

      https://onioncomic.market/mitra/
      https://onionket.com/mitra.html
      http://cfxnvps5mxzdfh7aw5gwhhx2hmbr5vbww4m4m3znk6sjxnrd6l7bvnid.onion/mitra.html

      With regard to your other implications, users of privacy software are no strangers to being accused of drug-dealing, pedophilia, and worse. As such, no offense is taken. Just to be clear, though, Onionket has a set of rules for all participants which are clearly posted on our About page:

      https://onioncomic.market/about/
      https://onionket.com/about.html
      http://cfxnvps5mxzdfh7aw5gwhhx2hmbr5vbww4m4m3znk6sjxnrd6l7bvnid.onion/about.html

      We have neither the ability nor the inclination to police the lives of participants outside our event, but we make a good faith effort to screen all participating content, and exclude anything that falls outside of said rules. If we find any clear violation of individuals’ rights in the process, we would forward it to any relevant authorities and make this fact very clear. After 5 events, this has never become necessary.

      Thank you for sharing your views in this matter, however.

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        11 months ago

        I agree that this is off-topic, next time post to !darknet@monero.town or something similar. Regarding the content itself, per German constitution:

        Art. 5 Absatz 3 Satz 1 bis 3

        „(1) Jeder hat das Recht, seine Meinung in Wort, Schrift und Bild frei zu äußern und zu verbreiten und sich aus allgemein zugänglichen Quellen ungehindert zu unterrichten. Die Pressefreiheit und die Freiheit der Berichterstattung durch Rundfunk und Film werden gewährleistet. Eine Zensur findet nicht statt. (2) Diese Rechte finden ihre Schranken in den Vorschriften der allgemeinen Gesetze, den gesetzlichen Bestimmungen zum Schutze der Jugend und in dem Recht der persönlichen Ehre. (3) Kunst und Wissenschaft, Forschung und Lehre sind frei. Die Freiheit der Lehre entbindet nicht von der Treue zur Verfassung.“

        TLDR: Artistic freedom is guaranteed. CSAM laws say drawings are fine. Conclusion: You are free to advertise your event because I don’t have to go to jail. Just don’t post it to !monero next time.

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            11 months ago

            Why are you still beholden to the german “”" laws"“” ?

            While the baltics won’t raid my house and seize my electronics, I’m not so sure that the Germans wouldn’t anyways if I were to host extremist content. Media is actually hosted in Germany again (surprisingly better legal situation than the balitcs).

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          11 months ago

          Weren’t you hosting this server out in the baltics? Why are you still beholden to the german “”" laws"“” ?

      • mister_monster@monero.town
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        11 months ago

        This isn’t about your use of Monero, this is about your plain as day advertisement of your interests. You’re acting like my implication (it was more than an implication, I used plain, candid language) follows from your use of Monero or comes out of the clear blue sky. This is absurd. It flows from the content on your site that you are advertising.

        I’m very aware that drawings are victimless, fictional and so no harm is done. I don’t think it should be illegal for you to draw them and share them. But I’m also not stupid and am free to make my own judgments about people using my own intellectual faculty. If I took bets about the sexual proclivities of the fans of this type of art I’m certain I’d come out financially ahead. I’m sure there are naïve people out there who buy the whole “it’s just art” line. My interactions with you don’t lead me to conclude that you’re a naïve person.

        The admin of this site is free to make his own determination about whether this is relevant, which is why I brought attention to it.