Currently users you block can still see your posts, reply to those posts, and trigger notifications when they do reply.
You can read the beginning of messages people you have blocked in your notifications tab, but have to unblock users to see the rest of what everyone else reading the replies to your post can see.
A “blocking” feature that is only inconvenient to the blocker is worse than no blocking feature at all, equivalent to trying to escape a fistfight by turning invisible but actually just closing your eyes.
Aside from you getting notifications when they reply, i think all the rest is how blocking works on all internet forums (as opposed to social media sites). Like if you block someone on Reddit i believe they can still see your posts, you just don’t see theirs.
That is incredibly unuseful as a way to curate how and who all can interact with you.
The way blocking seems to currently work is to the benefit of trolls & sealions.
It would be well improved as a feature were blocked accounts unable to see or reply to posts or profiles of accounts that have them blocked.
I disagree. On a public forum no one should be able to control what content i see and what content i don’t see. If you’re going around saying bullshit in a public forum, i should be able to see that, and i should be able to post a public reply refuting your bullshit. Otherwise people could post bullshit and block everyone from replying who would show that their post is bullshit. You shouldn’t get to block people from rebutting your claims.
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Though i could see the usefulness of an automatic tag on their comment saying “the OP has blocked this user, so OP doesn’t see this post.”
I disagree in turn with you.
If someone is harassing me and not engaging in good faith, I should be able to disengage from them and hide myself from their view.
If I was talking to someone in a park and a third person joined the conversation that’s fine. If that person starts being an annoying asshole, I should be able to walk away from the harassment while still maintaining my conversation. Accepting harassment is not a requirement to talk to people, and I should not have to accept harassment from whomever wants to fuck with me for the privilege of talking to people who aren’t harassing me.
I also don’t consider a site where people shitpost memes to be needing the same “public forum” protections of say a town hall meeting or a politician’s official communications.
“Open air free-for-alls” as I am reading you seem to prefer tend also to drive out people with marginalized identities as they leave them open to harassment people from dominate groups members do not get subjected to for just existing.
Further, there is no moral or technical reason a person should not be able to send out a message to “Everyone in the world except for Tom when he is logged in—because fuck that guy.”
Except for the notification part, that is how blocking works currently.
If someone is harassing you, just block that person, you won’t see any content created by that person, while you can maintain communication with the rest
They shouldn’t be able to eavesdrop on my conversation, nor take part in it.
I should be able to speak to Everybody But Tom if I so wish, and Tom should not be able to butt into the conversation.
So you want to forbid people to speak to other people because you say so? That’s really selfish, to say the least
If you want to maintain private conversations, use private messages. The rest is public
Yes, I want to forbid people to speak to me or take part in my conversations because I say so.
I, selfishly, do not wish to be harassed or have my conversations derailed by bad actors.
If people are free to make their own threads and own claims, why do they need “the right” to butt into and derail mine?
It doesn’t have to be. There is no reason I should not be able to speak to “everyone accept for people I designate” (Tom).
Well, block that people. Currently blocking is working as intended (except for the already mentioned notifications that is either a bug or an overlook). You block them and they can speak to you. The End
They’re not eavesdropping, you’re shouting in a public space. You don’t get to control other people. If you want that type of control then you should be on your own personal page on social media. Because that is not how public forums have ever worked, nor is it how they’re supposed to work.
This isn’t a public square. This is a private website. This is not how we decide where our taxes go, nor is it backed by any government.
If you were in public and a person started following you around as you had a conversation (even if that conversation was with everyone in the world except the bad actor) you could walk away and take the conversation with you.
If the harasser kept following you, you could firmly ask them to leave you alone, then start creeping your hand toward whatever weapon you keep on your person.
According to you, a person should not be able to post their Eid spread without every reply in the thread getting @ed Islamophobic venom?
A person cannot ask for latke recipes without everyone who has one being @ed antisemitism?
A woman cannot post a thread about a great picnic she just had with her wife without everyone replying “Nice cheese spread!” being bombarded with @s calling the women in the OP men?
Do you see how your—in my view, flawed—position sures up dominate power structures and discourages identities which are marginalized (and tend to be the victims of harassment) from speaking?
It’s a private website, but it is a public space. Restaurants are privately owned, but legally are considered public spaces. It’s the same with social media
I think you’re well-meaning but not understanding the topic. This is a public square, regardless of its private ownership. And you can stop hearing any of their harassment by hitting the block button, which is exactly it’s purpose. And if anyone is being abusive there’s a report button so the mods of the forum can ban them.
I also think we’re the only people still seeing this conversation now, and I think neither of us is gonna convince the other of anything. So I’ll just say i wish good things for you and maybe or paths will cross again some day. =)
If they can still reply to your posts/comments then no it’s not how blocking currently works. You can’t “walk away”.
Being unable to see your posts and comments wouldn’t do much as the user could just sign out of their account or use a private window and be able to see it again. Comments sections like this are publicly visible and indexable.
While I would love for the block feature to work how you describe, it only really works when creating an account takes effort and the comments aren’t publically accessible. Blocked people not being able to reply to you would be a good start though.
That’s the level of protection I am advocating for. I know people can views links in a new private account. They can’t reply that way.
They can make a separate account but I can block that one too if it acts up.
I’m suggesting a tiny speed bump to keep interactions good faith. Yes, dedicated trolls can do all sorts of things. I am advocating making it slightly inconvenient for less dedicated trolls to pester people.
Ah yeah, that is true.
If you block someone on reddit, they can see your posts but they cannot reply to them. This is the expected behavior on a platform like this.
Not true. You could respond to someone on reddit and they could not respond back. People abused this to get the last word in arguments
You mean people who were blocked could still reply and they abused that attribute of the block system?
Or do you mean people could say, “Go fuck yourself.” block and the blocked person couldn’t reply?
…because I’ll be honest that second one sounds exactly like what I want to be able to do.
I’m not sure which they are saying but the second one is how reddit worked. You can not reply to people who have blocked you but you can see their comments.
You can’t even reply to someone else’s reply to someone who has blocked you.
Got to tell you “they can’t even see your posts if you block them (when logged in to that account)” would be preferable to me, but even what you describe would be better than what currently goes on here.
Currently as I say in the OP people can reply even if you block them and (the beginning of) those replies trigger notifications (but when you click on them you can’t see the entire post.