So recently my moto G60 reached the end of life with respect to security updates. That was the reason I was using to prevent myself from switching to a custom rom(actual reason is laziness). This phone has rom support for pixel experience and lineage OS. So my questions are if pixel experience has any privacy advantages when compared to the stock rom the phone ships with¿? Also if I flash GApps along with lineage OS will all the privacy advantages I get with lineage disappear¿? I might need Google play services for some banking applications.

  • Orvorn
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    7 months ago

    The only way to use google play services and retain any privacy is to completely sandbox them, and the only OS that actually does this is GrapheneOS.

    • Sentau@feddit.deOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      So are you saying that privacy wise there is no difference between a device running stock rom and a rom like lineage with GApps??

      • Orvorn
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        It depends on your threat model. If you simply want fewer targeted ads, there is a benefit. If you are a journalist under a dictatorship, there is little to no benefit.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      DivestOS (a Lineage fork) permits you to run MicroG as a user app, so it can be run within a user profile (e.g.the work profile).

      How do you think this compares to the Graphene approach? (This stuff is above my pay grade, hence the question).

      DivestOS.org

      Edit: Divest is only available for a handful of devices, fewer than what Lineage supports.

      • virtualbriefcase@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        7 months ago

        Calyx with Micro G does have benifits, but isn’t quite as good as sandboxing, and also doesn’t have some of the other degoogling and security Graphene does.

  • DuskyRo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    7 months ago

    Motorola phones are very easy to mod(root,custom rom) and even if you brick the phone in most cases you can just use the lenovo recovery tool. I personally use crdroid but lineage is fine too. I recommend you use microg with magisk to hide that the device is root/has custom rom. You can also just use shelter for the banking apps.

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      7 months ago

      Root is great for some rare cases, but not needed for privacy and make your phone less secure.

      There are great apps only working with root though

  • ScrambleVerdict@monyet.cc
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    7 months ago

    I’m not sure how private lineage os is. It might still do some stuff in the background. But yes, if you install gapps you’ll lose privacy. DivestOS might be a good bet.

  • Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Just remember there is a balance between security and privacy that these types of communities forget and typically greatly increase the attack surface of their devices for minimal privacy gains.

    This is why, in general, giving special access to your phone with privileged apps (Google Play, Micro G) or severely reducing the security of the phone by rooting it is almost always something you should avoid.

  • majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    7 months ago

    The OS itself is private because it’s DeGoogled. I also installed GApps because I wanted the convinence of the App store and core feature I’ve been used to for so long.

    I also knew the moment I did the google-fication privacy was out the window.

    I was fine with LineageOS and would happily go back when my Pixel7a becomes EOL.