Two questions.

My family insist on using Whatsapp for the family chats. I have to keep a copy on a device just so I can communicate with them. I do so under protest, as I was always told it isn’t secure. My brother has just said

“oh Whatsapp is encrypted, it’s perfectly secure”.

First, is it actually as encrypted and safe as my brother claims? That would solve everything.

Second, if it isn’t, where can I get some proof that we should switch to Telegram or whatever? Proof which doesn’t make me look like a raving loony?

  • Konlanx@feddit.de
    141·
    7 months ago

    “It must be encrypted well because nothing has been leaked yet” is a very, very bad stance on encryption.

    In fact, every encryption is working well until it’s broken the first time.

    So no, you didn’t address shit.

    • zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id
      118·
      7 months ago

      Yea yea, if even Signal Protocol cant do shit, your shit can’t do anything as well. 🤣

      All you guys do is talking without any solid base. Sigh.

          • Konlanx@feddit.de
            12·
            7 months ago

            It is very unpleasant to communicate with you.

            It is still unclear what you meant with “your shit”.

            Apart from that I did not argue against the signal protocol, I argued against your idiotic stance on encryption.

            Maybe reading comprehension, eh?

            • velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml
              13·
              7 months ago

              It’s a rage-bait, avoid trolls like them. Whatsapp is close-sourced - so we don’t know shit about how good their encryption is - remember how phone numbers were showing up on Google Search? Yeah. Meta also works with the local government to suppress “fake news” - so, how exactly does it know what the contents are, without breaking encryption? These are two of the most convincing reason to not use the app.

            • zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id
              115·
              7 months ago

              So? We just have differing view. No more, no less.

              Bring your shit elsewhere don’t present it to me.

              • Konlanx@feddit.de
                8·
                7 months ago

                Are you able to coherently answer or is it going to stay like this? Because then I will end this conversation here.

                • zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id
                  110·
                  7 months ago

                  End it. I don’t need to converse with you either, I merely answered OP.

                  Since you ended this, be quiet and don’t spam me with notification.

                  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                    6·
                    7 months ago

                    You’ve been nothing but rude in this entire conversation. You havent articulated a rationale in any of your messages for your position that encryption doesn’t matter, or that closed source is good enough. You don’t have a clear and defensible argument that we can engage with. You’re just throwing insults, granted most of the insults are passive insults, so kudos for that.

          • nick@midwest.social
            31·
            7 months ago

            Give it up, you sound like either a you don’t know what you’re talking about or a you’re a bootlicker for facebook.

            You’re never going to win a pro Facebook argument in this community.