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        I answered it before you asked it. Trump’s base is loyal to Trump first, and America second. They won’t sway regardless of his convictions, let alone international relations with Israel. Encouraging voter disengagement, abstaining from voting, or voting uncommitted would only fall on the ears of the voters opposing Trump, thereby improving his chances of winning.

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          No, you evaded the question which was a hypothetical, because you know answering it highlights how the logic you’re using fails.

          A non-vote is not a vote. You know this, so stop trying to use that rhetoric.

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            A non-vote from a voter who otherwise would have voted against Trump is a vote for Trump. This is how this election must be seen with polls this close and civil rights, international war, and climate change on the line. Stop encouraging voter disengagement unless your goal is another Trump presidency.

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              I’m not encouraging voter disengagement, I’m saying that Biden simply cannot get my vote without stopping his support of genocide. I simply will not put my name on it.

              I still plan on engaging in June and in November though, whatever happens in the interim.

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              civil rights, international war, and climate change on the line.

              Those aren’t “on the line” because they aren’t considerations for either one of these candidates.

              You’re just arguing to perpetuate the very system that brought us to this point. Don’t try to claim “that’s just how it works” either as it only works that way because of people like you ensuring its survival.

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                Trump repealed 112 environmental regulations, sending us back over a decade, that Biden has been working hard to replace.

                Trump left the Paris Accord, which Biden has signed agreement to.

                Trump repealed the Obama-era rights for gender-affirming care that Biden just replaced.

                Trump repealed net neutrality, which Biden just reinstated.

                Trump stated that Russia should be allowed to attack anyone that doesn’t pay enough to NATO, and told Orbán that he intends to pull support from Ukraine.

                So, yeah, they’re on the line.

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                  Yet the climate change is still getting worse with no concrete action to turn things around.

                  Gender affirming care is now being banned across the country.

                  Minorities can no longer receive preferential treatment in hiring or schooling to boost their engagement in areas they’ve historically been excluded from.

                  Women no longer have the right to abortions.

                  Net neutrality can just be repealed again by the next FCC chairperson.

                  Russia continues their invasion of Ukraine in addition to Israel now invading Palestine with the US blocking any NATO resolutions to end the conflicts.

                  Again, none of this stuff is “on the line” if you’re going to continue to vote for one of these two right-wing parties unless your goal is to perpetuate the suffering.