I know what you mean, and from that point of view I agree. I have different values and so I use different measurements; A connection to a small instance is equally valuable as a connection to a big instance. It’s not about the amount of content but building a new paradigm of social media.

Well, we will end up with 160+ !gaming communities and no way of finding them other than word of mouth or actively checking every single instance and subscribe to !gaming - If they even have one.

It’s been a big issue for the two years I’ve been on Lemmy and I don’t believe the most used argument, “It will sort it self out, the community will balance it out”.

I’m not too bothered, I have mitigating procedures. I would be very interested in having this discussion again in a year, I feel this is one of the matters that only time will tell if one or none of us is right.

The link also refers to BB: The number of instances that this instances is completely Blocked By. If this number is high, then users on this instance will be limited in what they can see on the lemmyverse. and lists how many other instances every server on that list are blocked by.

When it comes to the overselling of Lemmy and the interconnectivity, what can I say? I’d word it very differently.

Anyways, from a technical point of view I’d say it’s close to what you describe - With third party instances working as an intermediary in some way. The issue is that there’s no “sync” for communities and historically we end up with three different versions of i.e. !gaming, one on each instance. What Lemmy need is some sort of multi-reddit/funneling/taggins system so you can just post to a !gaming community - And then it’d be rejected by those who’ve blocked you. But everybody else would get it.

I don’t see how one out of 160+ servers not connecting to sh.itjust.works would cut you out from the rest of the world.

I think of it more like being cut off from 1/160th of the fediverse. Unfortunate, but in the end a type of community I don’t think I’ll miss since our values don’t align.

You’re basically describing how the fediverse works I think.

How is it different than the current situation where both lemmy.world and beehaw.org are connect to lemmy.ml?

The only simple way I know about is checking the instance status of each individual server. Beyond that it’s building apps to collect the info for you.

At the bottom of every page of a Lemmy instance you’ll find the “Instances” link, which takes you to a list of who are connected and blocked.

No idea of the chronology, instance blocks is a config file setting and doesn’t show up in the mod logs. You’d have to look for announcements from your admins.

I understand the drama, but only have one piece of advice to those who can’t accept such an decision: If you want it your way, make your own.

What can I say? If people can’t accept that other people might have different opinions and worldview, it’s not people I think I’d miss the opportunity to interact with. So I don’t really lament those who block my home instance.

To address your surprise; it seems that the majority of new people coming to the Lemmyverse are reasonable and thinking people.

I’m pretty sure that means that if a Beehaw user is blocked from Lemmy.world, they can still comment on posts federated from Lemmy.world to Beehaw. In the Beehaw duplicate community. But when content from the specific user is sent back to Lemmy.world, the instance refuse to accept the comment either due to the individual being banned from the controlling community on Lemmy.world or from the instance as a whole.

At least that’s how it seemed to work in late 2022 when I administered my own instance and people were intensely ban and block happy on the instance level.

But isn’t it easy to test? I’ll make a community on my home instance and you subscribe to it so it’s federated to Lemmy.world and then you simply remove the content from Lemmy.world, yes?

Mods on their instance can’t moderate content sent from a community on i.e. sh.itjust.works.

I don’t find this any more dramatic than sh.itjust.works blocking lemmygrad.ml lol

Well, how about this:

You’re dealing with people that left reddit because the moderation wasn’t strong enough. By default, “regular stuff” isn’t filtered enough for them. So when you people come here with your regular stuff and they don’t have the manpower to filter through it, they decided to shut the gates. For now.

To be honest, I’m glad we’re on a platform where the default is “I don’t want to hear that so I’ll ignore you” instead of “I don’t want to hear that so I’ll try to silence you”.

First time being told you’re horrible because you’re not like “them” or get behind “it”?

Very nice!

Stunning. You guys make these yourselves or share stuff you find?

Cool cool. What happens if the remote community isn’t found on the home instance due to a lack of initial federation?

pls respek our culture, no flip thank

idk what to even say

Anything at all. You’re downvoted because they’re trying to silence you. Just keeping on trucking is the second worst thing you can do to the cowardly anonymous drive-by downvoter.

The worst thing you can do to them is keeping on trucking. With a smile.

Good grief, there’s only three posts in there and all three of them is the worst thing I’ve seen all day.

Perhaps better to try to illustrate. The | is my cursor.

First I write somethinge.

First I write somethinge. |

Find a typo, so backspace thrice, previous space disappears

First I writesomething|

Insert cursor, try to add space, accidentally add an N due to small onscreen keyboard.

First I writen|something.

Backspace to remove N, word contracts again.

First Iwrite|something.

It keeps going until the entire text field is one gigalarge single word.