Ach sooo. Sag das doch gleich 😵‍💫

Hab ich doch, du verstehst bloß nur Bahnhof.

Steht das nicht wortwörtlich in dem Bild?

DAS BILD IST NICHT VON ich_iel@feddit.de!! DAS IST EIN BILD, DAS ICH SELBER WOANDERS GEMACHT HABE. ICH FRAGE, WARUM DIE OPTION NICHT AKTIVIERT WIRD, UM EBEN DIE LEUTE ZU .ORG ZU BRINGEN! REDE ICH CHINESISCH ODER WARUM IST DAS SO SCHWER ZU VERSTEHEN?!?!?!?!

Grundgütiger! Ist doch alles nicht so kompliziert!

You don’t understand how an Arab TV station making comments against Arabs is ironic?

Und wenn das so ist, warum wird das Posten nicht auf Mods beschränkt?

Ironic that the last segment is from Al Jazeera.

I want to approve every update manually.

You can

Fedora simply takes what KDE offers, and the whole VRR etc. additions seem to cause tons of bugs.

Like any other distribution with KDE software.

But being the first to implement KDE releases… is problematic.

That comment makes little sense. Someone has to be the first. It’s impossible for everyone to wait. Also waiting forever means that existing users are stuck with old bugs because the update is not coming out. The first Plasma 6.1 update has been released yesterday. Don’t think Fedora users will have to wait forever for this.

Btw, Plasma is not the default desktop of Fedora. OP mentioned it but OP also talks about noobs who should stick to defaults anyway and also not make experiments with Atomic editions either.

Und was hat das damit zu tun, dass nur Mods neue Beiträge erstellen können?

just that Fedora’s function is typically regression testing for the money making product.

Fedora is not an LTS distribution but Fedora itself has as robust, if not more robust, QA leading up to a release as any other distribution.

Und warum wird der im Bild gezeigt Haken nicht gesetzt?

Wieso machen die Mods dieses Alteisen nicht dicht und lassen es nur als Archiv da?

there is quite a difference in stability between Fedora and Debian.

Sure but Debian really, REALLY is not a newbie distribution.

requires a fair bit of post-installation configuration (suboptimal OOTB experience for newbies)

I’m not the biggest fan of Gnome’s defaults but the regular, non-techie users want a browser (maybe Chrome instead of Firefox, depending on preference) and possibly Steam for gaming. Both are on Flathub, available from Gnome Software.

Less software availability compared to Ubuntu or Mint

The software that isn’t available, isn’t of interest to newbie/non-techie users.

More likely to break than Ubuntu or Mint

If anything causes breakage, it’s those web tutorials telling inexperienced users to add a bunch of PPAs to do shit. “So you use Ubuntu but video playback is a big laggy on your super new, hardly upstream-supported Radeon graphics card? Easy, add this PPA with untested git snapshots of Mesa and Kernel.” Yeah, no.

the non LTS kernels often cause issues

In 10 years of using Fedora (granted: my current main Linux system is SteamOS but I do have hardware running Fedora as well but with Gnome as desktop in that case) I once had a kernel-related bug, IIRC involving some fairly new AMD hardware.

KDE is currently unstable again (while it worked perfectly on Plasma 6.0)

Unless you’d be so kind to point me to a direction that showed that your instability is because of Fedora and not some bug that suck into Plasma 6.1, you’d have the same bug under any other distribution with Plasma 6.1.

I’ve been on Fedora as a daily driver since 2009 and have had yum updates break things.

Ah yes, when yum was the package manager, you had some breakage. As context for the readers here: dnf replaced yum in 2015, almost a decade ago: https://lwn.net/Articles/640420/

I do RHEL full-time so I’ve got the know-how to unravel it, but it’s not for the noob / non-technical, at least not at first.

Also, “noob / non-technical” users just use Gnome Software and not command line package managers.

So if there are breaking changes to things, you’ll be getting them.

No, Fedora has a policy against compatibility breaking updates mid-cycle. That’s why Gnome is never updated to a new major release on a Fedora release. You’ll have to wait for the next Fedora release to come out for such upgrades.

if you’re really a complete noob the best experience will be the one you can Google and get a working answer as easily as possible.

Those Ubuntu “as easily as possible” answers on the web often revolve around adding random PPAs which cause breakage over time, especially the more PPAs are mixed and mashed. If anything, those easy answers from random Ubuntu forums and websites, last updated 2014, cause more harm than good.

you are also a beta tester of things

Huh? Fedora Workstation is built on stable releases, made by people who actually do QA.

Is it because Fedora is usually considered bleeding edge?

That was literally more than 10 years ago.

There is scrcpy for that and you can launch arbitrary commands from KDE Connect too.

I’m fully aware of that but the scrcpy feature set is not integrated into KDE Conenct, therefore the features overlap to a degree but aren’t the same. Phone Link allows to launch apps from Windows, KDE Connect doesn’t offer the same. That’s no diss or anything, just stating facts.