• Natanael
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    8 months ago

    You do not want to understand the complexity of things like bioavailability, disruption of regulatory systems like faulty hunger signals and absorption, etc. You might as well be saying that drugs don’t don’t influence behavior.

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      8 months ago

      Tell people to own their own faults and if they want change look inward instead of for confirmation biased articles rooted in bad data: “erm no its not my fault I just have a thyroid problem and also my brain is telling me im hungry and I HAVE to listen and also um I just erm um”

      Cope. Millions of people have fixed their weight issues and it wasn’t through anything but a controlled diet.

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          Oh I don’t know, any respected dietician or nutritionist just telling you to focus on macronutrient balance to get the proper 500 calorie deficit from maintenance to lose 1 pound a week?

          Or maybe https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18025815/

          Or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8017325/

          Or https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/diets-weight-loss-carbohydrate-protein-fat/

          Maybe stop looking to psuedo-science that just wants to sell you a product, meal plan, or supplement and just accept it’s very basic. This fucking thread article literally says he wants to develop and sell a drug to counteract fructose. Or maybe just maybe take some accountability and just enjoy fructose containing foods in a caloric moderation and boom you’re not obese. This is BASIC thermogenic energy management. 90% of a healthy diet is consistency in caloric intake. The rest regarding timing, macros, micros, food quality are all supplementary to reach your goals. But setting being NOT OBESE as the BARE MINIMUM GOAL, it’s so fucking easy to just reduce daily calories.

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            From your second link:

            Our review indicated that there is no single best strategy for weight management

            Obesogenic environments and biological and psychological factors all contribute to obesity.

            However, energy intake and energy expenditure are dynamic processes influenced by body weight and influence each other. Thus, interventions aimed at creating an energy deficit through the diet are countered by physiological adaptations that resist weight loss.

            Moreover, metabolic adaptations to decrease energy expenditure can lead to a plateau with this type of diet, which individuals may misinterpret as “failure” due to “lack of willpower.”

            See? The scientists you quoted took a stab at you

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              8 months ago

              “According to a meta-analysis of several diet programs, calorie restriction was the primary driver of weight loss, followed by macronutrient composition.” It’s like your reading comprehension is designed to just find your own biases and accept them unequivocally. Cope.

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                8 months ago

                Look in the mirror

                You’re acting like it’s trivial. Obesity wouldn’t be common if it was trivial

                Your own sources says why it’s hard and you’re pretending you didn’t see it

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                  Nah mate you’re delusional. If we’re talking the LOWEST BAR POSSIBLE: don’t be obese. It’s so simple to just intake less calories. We’re not saying lose body fat, get into shape, become an athlete, or 12% bf. Just literally set your bmi ( a bullshit measurement anyway) to AT MINIMUM overweight.

                  Yes it’s ludicrously trivial and requires you to just stop eating so much. The same fucking method vets have your dog do when they weigh too much.

                  As I said elsewhere, calories and consistency are 90%, everything else is to optimize your goal. And the vast majority of people are lazy morons who can’t stay consistent.

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                    Let me guess, you’ve literally never heard of the concept that the body reduces energy expenditure and increases hunger when you eat significantly less? (despite both being mentioned in the previous linked research)

                    Or alternatively, you’re in full denial over it and think that doesn’t happen?