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  • Chigüir
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    7 months ago

    TLDR: I agree with the funny meme.

    Well, you see. That’s the promise that has been made to us since birth. We even grew socialized to live like that’s what we are supposed to get. In a sense, most of the estate socialism I know of is focused on what you say.

    Yet, after so many years living in this system, I’m convinced that asking nicely or having hierarchies just doesn’t cut it because the mere existence of an asymmetry in power means we are the ones under the boot. Money is just a reflection of that asymmetry. It can buy you governors, mass media, hired guns, etc.

    As long as that difference of political power exists, no matter how “fairer” it can be, as long as you are on the side of the governed, we are on the losing end, my friend.

    And you wanna know the saddest part? We, the people, are bombarded every day with propaganda focused on dividing us and discouraging us from pursuing how we can organize with each other in a way more organic way. But, of course, the discourse of hate is against ethnic groups, genders, sexual preferences, and religions… The media they own (the majority we can access) will try their best to deflect the fault of everything happening with justice and ecology to us instead of them.

    Well, anyway, have a good one friend!

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      I would say that running a race without goalposts is part of the problem.

      I don’t mind that someone else is richer than me, but I do mind living a life where everything boils down to raw luck.

      I want definite, attainable, sustainable goals that lead to static positive average happiness for everyone rather than misery for the meek and glory for the assholes.

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        7 months ago

        I understand your point of view since I have shared it for a long time.

        It’s just that, you’ll notice, the way the social system is framed makes it impossible to have those things. The argument is that, as long as there is a hierarchy, you don’t have a say in how things are run: others will decide for you, and those others have interests that don’t align with the well-being of all to increase their power. Ala, power begets power, or money attracts more money. As you have seen, it occurred in the news or economic analysis.

        Now, that’s my position, and I align with eco-anarchism. So, to be fair to you and give you space to find your own answers, I invite you to study the subject of politics. So, to point you in the general direction of people (like anarchists) who care about open education (since our interest is Libertarian Socialist society and not seizing power but creating new institutions of consensus and democracy), I’ll point you to the YouTube channel of WHAT IS POLITICS? who helped me navigate the most common questions about the subject in a 101 style. Mainly to avoid falling into the trap of “worbs,” which are words that mean nothing. You have found many of those, but he’ll help you catch them when you hear them.

        Keep in mind that the subject of politics can be studied from many angles since it is really complex. And one thing is sure: no “objective” studies about the subject exist since everything is checked with different interests in mind. You don’t study why some people are poorer than others if your goal is not to solve the issue. Another example is PraggerU’s changing history, facts, and data to perpetuate the validation of the capitalist hierarchies. Do you get me?

        I hope this helps you to understand the problem better. It is a challenging subject, so take your time to learn at your own pace, and if you need any sources to study the topic from a libertarian socialist perspective, feel free to send me a message.

        Take care!