• porcariasagrada
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    7 months ago

    Disagreeing with our current understanding of physics is certainly a take.

    i’m not disagreeing, i’m reiterating that scientific knowledge changes according to evidence. unlike other belief systems, like religion. i’m agnostic, i believe that we can’t know for sure god exists with our current knowledge of reality, but i also believe if god existed he would talk to everyone the same, and he hasn’t spoken to me yet, so organized religion is bullshit, in my humble opinion.

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      7 months ago

      Scientific knowledge does indeed change according to evidence. The existence of the universe ironically breaks our entire scientific understanding of it.

      As for your second point, there are books which claim to contain the word of God which you can read. Why would God personally need to converse with every human born each 0.2 seconds? 8 billion people at the same time on the God hotline? Do the laws of a country also not apply unless the president personally tells everyone about them?

      From one of the books:

      Those who do not know say, ‘If only God would speak to us, or a sign would come to us.’ Thus said those who were before them. Their hearts are alike. We have made the signs clear for people who are certain.

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        7 months ago

        breaks our CURRENT scientific understanding of it.

        dam another ftfy.

        also, books don’t make something more believable. after all they were written by men that claim to hear a voice i believe (have faith in organized religious slang) either speaks to everyone or no one.

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          I was certainly not referring to our past scientific understanding you are right about that.

          If you are referring to our future scientific understanding, I did not expect you to solve the time problem so soon. Congratulations.

          Now if you could present this future-knowledge to me, of which your faith seems to be unwavering. I would love to see it…

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            7 months ago

            until gods talks to everyone he doesn’t exist in my mind. so giving any kind of importance to the concept of god or what comes of it is not really in my personal belief system. hope you respect at least that about me. that my belief is as valid as yours, the same way i accept your beliefs as valid mine in this god subject. after all according to your beliefs my beliefs are the creation of god therefore divine.

            about the rest, the scientific method is time proofed, as you can see by the lovely tech you are using, created using it. also time-space is a human invention, once you understand that you’ll understand why there will be a time where that concept will lose importance just like the concept of god and all its ramifications.

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              7 months ago

              Of course I respect your choice not to adhere to a religion. I was just trying to give you some insight into the theological perspectives.

              If science manages to change all these laws of physics that have remained virtually unchanged since the 1900s and prove how the universe was created without god I’m sure many theists will leave their religion.

              Until that moment, having an explanation of how the universe came to be by means of theism remains a preferable option for many.