The religious don’t technically believe in consent. Many religions accept rape in various forms/stories. I’m not saying it’s okay, I’m an atheist. I actively do not believe it’s okay. I’m saying it should be recognized that there’s cultures and ideologies in humanity that don’t recognize consent because they don’t actually believe in free will. My point in making the comment was to get feedback on this issue, not to be told what rape is, like I don’t know. Rape is also not the only kind of non-consent. There is also slavery and oppression. Possibly there’s even further terms of consent that most people are still unaware of. It’s a complex issue for some people apparently and religion makes it even more complicated. I think free will must be proven or there’s always going to be non-consent issues for our species, because people don’t feel responsible for the harm they cause to others and their environment. They think it’s “god’s plan” when actually, they’re just assholes.
Thanks for your elaboration - I wasn’t understanding what you were trying to discuss earlier but it makes sense now. It certainly is a tricky topic to breach when you get religion involved and bodily autonomy clashes with deeply held beliefs of ones’ religion. Have a nice day.
It’s a construct.
Can you elaborate on this?
Not much to elaborate. It seems to change based on culture. It’s arguably a construct of free will which is still up for debate.
I’m a bit confused as to why you’re pointing out that free will is up to debate.
Consent is respecting another person’s bodily autonomy. Without two people consenting, we call that rape.
The religious don’t technically believe in consent. Many religions accept rape in various forms/stories. I’m not saying it’s okay, I’m an atheist. I actively do not believe it’s okay. I’m saying it should be recognized that there’s cultures and ideologies in humanity that don’t recognize consent because they don’t actually believe in free will. My point in making the comment was to get feedback on this issue, not to be told what rape is, like I don’t know. Rape is also not the only kind of non-consent. There is also slavery and oppression. Possibly there’s even further terms of consent that most people are still unaware of. It’s a complex issue for some people apparently and religion makes it even more complicated. I think free will must be proven or there’s always going to be non-consent issues for our species, because people don’t feel responsible for the harm they cause to others and their environment. They think it’s “god’s plan” when actually, they’re just assholes.
Thanks for your elaboration - I wasn’t understanding what you were trying to discuss earlier but it makes sense now. It certainly is a tricky topic to breach when you get religion involved and bodily autonomy clashes with deeply held beliefs of ones’ religion. Have a nice day.
Oppression isn’t just bodily autonomy. It includes restriction of the mind.
Absolutely.