• MartianRecon@lemmus.org
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    19 days ago

    And you ignored my part of the conversation. He DID pass comprehensive student loan debt relief. Republicans used lawfare to halt the program.

    Does that not count?

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      19 days ago

      He’s forgiven billions in student loan debt

      This was part of your conversation. You’re just deflecting because you had no idea what the PSLF program was or how it came to be.

      And no I don’t give participation trophies to presidents. Especially when I suspect they wanted it to fail in the first place.

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        19 days ago

        He literally passed a bill, and republicans used the courts to strike it down. Biden then uses the mechanisms of government he can control, and still helps SOME people

        Naw that doesn’t count it’s a participation trophy.

        🙄

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          19 days ago

          He literally passed a bill

          No he didn’t. The attempted at student loan forgiveness you’re referring to was done through an executive order. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

          https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/qa-on-bidens-student-loan-forgiveness/

          Also, I suspect he fully intended for it to fail for two reasons.

          1. Joe Biden voted numerous times to make student loan debt difficult to remove through bankruptcies during his time as senator. There is no reason to think he suddenly was in favor of student loan forgiveness.
          2. At the same time he announced this attempt he announced student loan debt repayments would restart. Obviously this wasn’t going to go over well and he needed some popular news to drown out that aspect. It worked. Student loan payments resumed and student loan forgiveness failed.
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            19 days ago

            Oh heaven forbid I mix up how he is trying to help people. Forgive my non-encyclopedic memory.

            Biden also literally has changed his views as the times have changed. That’s to be expected when the population shifts.

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              19 days ago

              Oh heaven forbid I mix up how he is trying to help people.

              Oh is that what you call lying?

              It’s clear you know nothing about who Joe Biden is or what he has done. And you know what, that’s fine! Vote for him. That’s your right.

              But if you’re going to come into a conversation telling other people why they should vote for him don’t be surprised when you get fact checked.