As the president begins his last international trip before the election, the fear in the crowd is that conflict in Gaza is tripping him up.

  • jake_jake_jake_@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    i think the issue is not necessarily that voters who are disappointed by biden on this issue would vote for trump directly, or even think he would make a different or “better” choice but instead may not turn out, or vote for a 3rd party candidate. with the race as close as it is now, that might be all it takes.

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      18 days ago

      Then it behooves all of us who want to stop Trump to give them other reasons to vote for Biden. We need to let them know that Trump is not going to be any less supportive of genocide and it’s either Trump or Biden. Voting third party or abstaining won’t change that.

      It helps if you try to convince people to vote on down ballot races too. Too many people think president is the most important thing to vote for when local and regional elections can matter far more on a personal level.

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        18 days ago

        It also behooves Biden to just… not. Is supporting Israel’s genocide so important to him that he’d rather let Trump win?

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            18 days ago

            I don’t need him to change, I need him to do what everyone else is already doing for him, that is do something he doesn’t believe in so Joe Biden wins the election.

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              18 days ago

              Okay, there’s also no point in waiting for him to do that either. If that’s what you’re waiting for in order to vote for him, you might as well just vote for Trump.

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                  18 days ago

                  …or you can work on getting out the vote to prevent the guy who literally says he’s going to be a dictator get into office.

                  Your bizarre “we have to force Biden to do something or fuck it all” attitude is so ridiculously unhelpful.

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                    18 days ago

                    Helpful? The defeatist attitude isn’t helpful either. Why are people being held to higher standards than the dipshit they’re being asked to vote for? It’s easier to get one old piece of shit to act to his own interests and do the bare fucking minimum and stop murdering children than to convince a lot of people to support murdering children.