A person can be killed instantly through many different means.

As we know it, to be killed painlessly, is to be killed instantly.

If you instantly destroy a person’s entire brain then they died without pain.

Yet the most effective ways of instantly destroying someone’s entire brain are considered inhumane.

If instantly killing someone by smashing their head with a massive rock, or shooting them in the brain stem is inhumane, then there is no humane way to kill someone at all.

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    10 months ago

    And no one would qualify those as “humane” either. So the argument still stands.

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        10 months ago

        It’s a weird edge case that is between killing and assisted suicide, assuming there is consent.

        Euthanasia without consent seems not so humane to me, but once again it is an edge case that is still hard to define.

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        10 months ago

        There is a difference, but if you start saying that shooting an invader is humane, you have a serious problem.

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          10 months ago

          Self-defense is inhumane? Call out the invader first, please, then we can talk about whether the defender is overdoing it.

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            10 months ago

            Killing is inhumane.

            Killing in self defense might be necessary, yet it does not become humane just because you want it to.

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            10 months ago

            That sounds like your average american too.

            Nonetheless, if you start thinking that killing is humane because “they deserve it”, I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

            Because I’m pretty sure that this horrible rapist invader is also convinced that you deserve it, yet I don’t believe you would find their behaviour humane for that reason.

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              10 months ago

              if you start thinking that killing is humane because “they deserve it”, I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

              Fair enough. While I don’t subscribe to pacifism, I do prefer that self-defense be regarded as an unfortunate necessity. Celebrating violence isn’t going to help us.

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                10 months ago

                It can be a necessity and still be inhumane.

                Having to do something does not make it good, and it’s fine as long as people see it.

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                10 months ago

                Because I said that killing is inhumane?

                Oh I forgot, Russia doesn’t kill anyone, silly me /s