Voice to parliament referendum fails in defeat that Indigenous advocates will see as a blow to progress towards reconciliation

Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

  • TheControlled@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    9 months ago

    Yeah I don’t get it either. I know a lot of Natives hate the Bureau of Indian Affairs, but is that what Aus is trying to get too (within the Constitution)?

    • Cypher@aussie.zoneEnglish
      10·
      9 months ago

      There are essentially two parts to what was proposed, the first is that having mention of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island (ATSI) peoples in the constitution is recognition.

      The second part, which is actually the exact mechanism which was proposed, was a permanent advisory body made up of ATSI representatives with constitutional power to give advice to the Government on issues related to or impacting ATSI people.

      The exact details of the advisory body were up to legislation which we will probably never see.

        • Cypher@aussie.zoneEnglish
          82·
          9 months ago

          A few of the arguments or concerns voiced by Australian’s included:

          -A Voice with no power is pointless

          -Lack of detail in the proposal

          -Separating Australian’s by race is divisive (note there’s already constitutional race powers, which I disagree with and hope will be scrapped)

          -ATSI people would have more representation than others (they actually have proportionally higher representation in Parliament today than their percentage of population)

          -Leaving the exact details of the Voice to legislation means any future government could gut it without violating the constitutional amendment

          -concerns this is the first push on a path to treaty and reparations as a percentage of GDP (which WAS discussed as a possibility by the people who worked on the Uluru statement)

          I’ve left out the outright lies, though I guarantee someone will take issue with me simply mentioning the talking points to give you context.

        • Cypher@aussie.zoneEnglish
          11·
          9 months ago

          The exact wording of the Constitutional amendment was released 6-7 months ago.

          The Legislation has not been, and likely won’t be seen.

          If you have seen the legislation somewhere please share a link.

            • Cypher@aussie.zoneEnglish
              21·
              9 months ago

              Design principles are not legislation, it seems you are unfamiliar with Parliamentary process.

              Additionally he (Anthony Albanese) stated that if the referendum is successful, another process would be established to work on the final design, with a subsequent government produced information pamphlet stating that this process would involve Indigenous Australian communities, the Parliament and the broader community, with any legislation going through normal parliamentary scrutiny procedures.

              The final design being the legislation.

              I hope that clears things up for you.

                • Cypher@aussie.zoneEnglish
                  11·
                  9 months ago

                  You claimed the legislation had been shown, it has not.

                  Your misinformation helps no one.

                  • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    11·
                    9 months ago

                    Except… That it had. No matter how much you wish your narrative to be real, you have no clue how the world works. 🤦

                    But, whatever. You want to stay ignorant and stupid, you do you.