• SchizoDenji@lemm.ee
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      I don’t understand how you’ve equated security cameras in a PUBLIC PLACE as “less privacy”.

      What do you want privacy for in a public place?

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        I don’t think the issue is “I want to do illegal things in public without consequence.” It’s more, “I don’t trust the mechanisms of enforcement to use this power justly.”

        For example: Radio City Music Hall used facial recognition tech to identify and ban a lawyer whose firm was suing them. She wasn’t even working the case. RCMH just issued a blanket ban. It’s abusive.

        And there are other risks. Stalking is a huge one. (Some creep takes your pic at the supermarket and now you spend a year of your life getting creepy messages and feeling unsafe everywhere you go.) Or there’s the risk that people who participate in lawful protest will face retribution or punishment by corrupt law enforcement.

        Kashmir Hill has a great book out about this now. You can read an interview with her here.

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          No dude, I have plenty to hide. Just nothing that I do in a public place though. Wonder when was the last time you were at one of them.

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        If they have facial tracking then they can basically keep track of everywhere you go

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      Singapore is a police state. Far away from fascism though, they do it for security.

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          Can’t disagree. But when we’re talking about Singapore we must see their bigger picture. If they want to stay utopian they must keep their values

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            8 months ago

            stay

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            This implies they’re a utopia and not a rich-people-only dystopia.

            Is the bigger picture murdering people consuming cannabis?

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              This is why Singapore is the safest country in the world. You can leave your laptop overnight on a bench and pick it up tomorrow. The death penalty for drugs is a worthy sacrifice considering the extremely positive societal outcome.

              Rich people or not, it doesn’t matter. Both rich and poor abuse drugs. Following this logic US would be the poorest country with 1% ultra rich utopian-like people as well.

              Also cannabis is a legal drug in only 10 countries worldwide. It’s not universally approved and won’t be any time soon.

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                Murder is acceptable if petty thefts are reduced? So the worth of a human life is roughly $200 - $2000, or the worth of a laptop?

                If the only way to stop petty thefts is murder, petty theft cannot be prevented ethically.

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                    Sending the message that money is more important than the lives of people, alright.

                    I’m happy to live in a country where this kind of ““justice”” system is impossible to implement legally.

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                The death penalty for drugs is a worthy sacrifice considering the extremely positive societal outcome.

                “It’s good that we kill someone for smoking a joint because no one stole my laptop!” You have fucked up priorities.

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                  I’d rather have my laptop than a literal drug