• Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    I love that the American people think Biden can wave his hand and there will be a ceasefire. That is about as far from truth as you can get.

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      8 months ago

      He definitely has at least the means of applying pressure.

      Completely freeze military cooperation and weapon deliveries and withdraw the Carriers they send would be possible after talks failed.

      But that is not something that makes sense when you want to keep your military base in the middle east functional and regarding the vast amounts of religious people in the US it would put off parts of potential voters next year.

      I think the whole aspiration of a ceasefire is just political talk so the US can say they tried their best, in the end they will support Israel in their more than questionable response to Hamas despicable provocation.

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        He definitely has at least the means of applying pressure.

        How do you know he isn’t? These things don’t necessarily happen in open view.

        Completely freeze military cooperation and weapon deliveries and withdraw the Carriers they send would be possible after talks failed.

        That’s up to Congress. Unless you want it legal for the President to ask for a favor again.

        Edit to add: I especially like the Carrier part. The only thing stopping this from becoming a regional war are those battle groups. You seem to think that inviting Iran to the table would be a good thing.

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      8 months ago

      He absolutely can do that. If Biden said the bombings need to stop or arms transfers and aid to Isreal will be cut off, they would stop. They’d put up a major stink and spout all sorts of vitriol, but they would stop.

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      8 months ago

      That’s exactly the lack of power trump intends to change … And many Americans will think that’s a good thing.

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      8 months ago

      He helped things down this path by disallowing certain talking points. Whether it contributed, or to what degree it contributed… He helped break things.

      Now people want to see him fix what he helped break.

      He miscalculated in an important way and unless he has a few aces up his sleeve, American democracy may be at stake.

      We need Dark Brandon, not what we’re seeing right now.

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          8 months ago

          You missed my point, provided a strawman and acted rude/glib to a number of people.

          What’s up? You okay?

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            8 months ago

            Your point is opaque. You seem to think that the lack of argumentative voices in administrations somehow limits the ability for a President to force other country’s to do their bidd8ng. Of course, there is no logic to this.

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      Bruh, he could slip while taking the stairs and there will be a ceasefire. If he intentionally waved his hand he could end the occupation.

      Maybe you’re betting that this is beyond the president (as it has always been in the US), and that may be true. But if you think that the occupation government can stand by itself without US intervention and aid for every second, then no, that is just not true.

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          Nope, I thought @Rapidcreek meant that even if the US stops supporting the occupation it would survive, but it turns out he actually meant Biden, as in only Biden being against the occupation.

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        But if you think that the occupation government can stand by itself without US intervention and aid for every second, then no, that is just not true.

        Congress writes legislation not the President. Nice try, if several others didn’t try the same argument before you.

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          Yes, I already mentioned that:

          Maybe you’re betting that this is beyond the president (as it has always been in the US)

          Still, the president pushing against the occupation would be far from futile.

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            Still, the president pushing against the occupation would be far from futile.

            If I was an IDF General and you told me to ceasefire. I’d first ask you for what. After you told me nothing, I’d tell you to piss off. They have conditioned the battlefield, split Gaza in two and engaging Hamas directly and you want them to withdraw 100k troops and give Hamas time to regroup.

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              First of all you’re taking the word of the IDF for what’s going on in the invasion, which Is great, they’ve shown their reliability time and time again.

              Anyways, as the president of the US you don’t talk to an IDF “general” who probably doesn’t have control over his own ass. If you want to do any kind of talking you direct it to the big clown.

              If that doesn’t work start by pulling your troops from there, then start pulling the dandy stuff you’ve been sending as intimidation, and let things flow for a while.

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                First of all you’re taking the word of the IDF for what’s going on in the invasion,

                There are many embedded journalists.

                Anyways, as the president of the US you don’t talk to an IDF “general” who probably doesn’t have control over his own ass.

                No you don’t, but that would be the reaction he would get for the guy who has half a million troops in the field.

                If that doesn’t work start by pulling your troops from there, then start pulling the dandy stuff you’ve been sending as intimidation, and let things flow for a while

                You have no idea what you are talking about.