Thanks for the details. As it always turns out, things are never as bad as conservatives want it to be. Fuck transphobes, who think world needs to align with their views. It’s like they cannot accept that transpeople have always existed whether they like it or not.
To me it’s just so weird to watch them get angry about things they’ve never cared about before. My uncle now “cares” deeply about the integrity of women’s college sports but when asked could name zero college or professional level female athletes. But he does know he hates the American women’s soccer team because they were mean about trump.
It is almost like he is outraged because the media wants him to be angry, not think for himself. I am not even going to make the distinction between so-called conservative and liberal media.
things are never as bad as conservatives want it to be
Not disagreeing with your reply and I don’t think you meant anything by it, I just feel like it’s important to point out that even if she had beat every single cis woman in the race, that still wouldn’t be a bad thing, just a thing that makes conservatives (E: and transphobes in general, of course) uncomfortable (but they don’t get to define what’s good or bad for the rest of us).
Agreed. It’s incredible how bigots put up so much bullshit, that even the attempt to debunk it cedes a bunch of rhetorical ground.
You can see that with this woman, according to them she’s “offered” to give the medal back and “admitted” she’s not a woman, because by immersing her in their bigoted attacks they’ve managed to put her in a position where those words came out of her mouth and they could twist them against her.
Or in my comment I said she won no prizes and was raising money for charity, but even if she won prize money and trophies and did nothing for charity, that would be fine. That’s what it means for a trans athlete to compete. If they’re not allowed to win, they’re not really competing.
I think the saying goes that arguing with a bigot is like wrestling with a pig - you both end up covered in shit but the pig loves it.
Thanks for the details. As it always turns out, things are never as bad as conservatives want it to be. Fuck transphobes, who think world needs to align with their views. It’s like they cannot accept that transpeople have always existed whether they like it or not.
To me it’s just so weird to watch them get angry about things they’ve never cared about before. My uncle now “cares” deeply about the integrity of women’s college sports but when asked could name zero college or professional level female athletes. But he does know he hates the American women’s soccer team because they were mean about trump.
It is almost like he is outraged because the media wants him to be angry, not think for himself. I am not even going to make the distinction between so-called conservative and liberal media.
Not disagreeing with your reply and I don’t think you meant anything by it, I just feel like it’s important to point out that even if she had beat every single cis woman in the race, that still wouldn’t be a bad thing, just a thing that makes conservatives (E: and transphobes in general, of course) uncomfortable (but they don’t get to define what’s good or bad for the rest of us).
Agreed. It’s incredible how bigots put up so much bullshit, that even the attempt to debunk it cedes a bunch of rhetorical ground.
You can see that with this woman, according to them she’s “offered” to give the medal back and “admitted” she’s not a woman, because by immersing her in their bigoted attacks they’ve managed to put her in a position where those words came out of her mouth and they could twist them against her.
Or in my comment I said she won no prizes and was raising money for charity, but even if she won prize money and trophies and did nothing for charity, that would be fine. That’s what it means for a trans athlete to compete. If they’re not allowed to win, they’re not really competing.
I think the saying goes that arguing with a bigot is like wrestling with a pig - you both end up covered in shit but the pig loves it.