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“…offers to give participation medal back because she’s being targeted by transphobes and just wants the harrassment to stop.”
I mean, I assume that’s the reason, right? Why else would you give back a participation medal? It wouldn’t be out of principle because it’s a ridiculous thing to expect anyone to do.
I searched up this story after making the above guess and it was roughly right because these people are so damn predictable. Only the worst outlets are reporting on it, and they’re misquoting her horrendously. She didn’t “offer”, she said if the organisers want it back she’ll give it back. It was an acknowledgement that it’s the organisers’ decision, not hers.
She’s maintined the whole time that she’ll follow whatever rules are in place, including running as a man when the organisation requires it. Of course transphobes are using that as “proof” that she’s a man.
She’s also quoted in headlines as saying “I’m not a woman,” but it was sarcasm. She said, “I get it… I’m not a woman, I don’t have a womb.” She was characterising the hateful remarks she’s received and they twisted that and said it came from her mouth and even called it an “admission”.
This is the original article as far as I can tell: https://nypost.com/2023/04/26/trans-marathoner-glenique-frank-offers-to-give-back-medal/
It has the same shameless “14,000” fact-twisting in the headline, but unlike other articles piggybacking on it, at least it tells some of her side and doesn’t constantly misgender her.
She also says she won’t apologise because she didn’t do anything wrong, which she didn’t. She’s running for no prize and she’s raising money for charity, but the culture war needs victims I guess, so she’s fair game to these people.
Thanks for the details. As it always turns out, things are never as bad as conservatives want it to be. Fuck transphobes, who think world needs to align with their views. It’s like they cannot accept that transpeople have always existed whether they like it or not.
To me it’s just so weird to watch them get angry about things they’ve never cared about before. My uncle now “cares” deeply about the integrity of women’s college sports but when asked could name zero college or professional level female athletes. But he does know he hates the American women’s soccer team because they were mean about trump.
It is almost like he is outraged because the media wants him to be angry, not think for himself. I am not even going to make the distinction between so-called conservative and liberal media.
things are never as bad as conservatives want it to be
Not disagreeing with your reply and I don’t think you meant anything by it, I just feel like it’s important to point out that even if she had beat every single cis woman in the race, that still wouldn’t be a bad thing, just a thing that makes conservatives (E: and transphobes in general, of course) uncomfortable (but they don’t get to define what’s good or bad for the rest of us).
Agreed. It’s incredible how bigots put up so much bullshit, that even the attempt to debunk it cedes a bunch of rhetorical ground.
You can see that with this woman, according to them she’s “offered” to give the medal back and “admitted” she’s not a woman, because by immersing her in their bigoted attacks they’ve managed to put her in a position where those words came out of her mouth and they could twist them against her.
Or in my comment I said she won no prizes and was raising money for charity, but even if she won prize money and trophies and did nothing for charity, that would be fine. That’s what it means for a trans athlete to compete. If they’re not allowed to win, they’re not really competing.
I think the saying goes that arguing with a bigot is like wrestling with a pig - you both end up covered in shit but the pig loves it.
She’s maintined the whole time that she’ll follow whatever rules are in place, including running as a man when the organisation requires it. Of course transphobes are using that as “proof” that she’s a man.
Man alive, just let the poor woman run. If she’s willing to let you misgender her so she can run then she’s literally doing everything you’re asking her to. Fuck off and let her do her thing!
She looks so happy in those pictures. Fuck the media for sensationalizing a nothing-burger and fuck them again for headlines like these that literally cause violence. They have to know that targeting her will result in threats and harassment.
And a 100 million more "fuck you"s to the assholes who gobble up this conservative propaganda and use it to fuel their circle-jerk of hate.
Excellent post and well done finding a source. Not often do you find this kinda effort online!
Ever considered to get into the news business? That was more informative than 100% of actual news.
What gets me is its the London marathon, its a mixed event where men and women run the same course at the same time. So this is literally just conservatives being mad a trans woman existing.
One thing that I found interesting from marathon times is that the wheelchairs finish a solid 30 minutes ahead of the runners (women, men, everyone). Because cities have roads, wheels are the real advantage. Even without gears.
Well, now we must rally against the wheelchair users because it is unfair to genuine athletes. /s
If a trans woman places 999th in a race of 1000 women, transphobes will still talk about the “unfair advantage” she had over the woman who placed dead last.
The constant targeting of trans people as part of a pathetic culture war is reprehensible.
Big numbers scary, that’s how they work.
Scary numbers get views, that’s how they work.
I hope I’m right in thinking that users on Lemmy don’t need this reminder, but I still support sending the reminder in case I’m wrong.
Well I’m just curious about what place she got amongst women, now.
Frank came 6,171st out of more than 24,000 women in total. If all participants of the mass event are taken into account, Frank finished 21,617 out of 48,694
A solid middle of the pack performance.
how pathetic that they need to make their own monsters like this
trans women are women. full stop. enough of this charade.
We need a petition to rename Fox News to Trump News
Foxes are amazing animals and do not deserve to be associated with this shit.
I mean, foxes do piss and shit on everything though, so I get the relationship.
They care about other foxes way more than Fox® cares about other humans though.
Which isn’t a hard bar to beat since the majority of fox species are solitary, but somehow Fox still managed to do worse.
And it’s not like like this marathon was an event with the main goal of entertainment and leisure and what place you end up in doesn’t have the slightest significance or anything! I don’t think the Olympics was checking the photo finish ready to send letters to the cis women if only the trans woman hadn’t ranked higher than them.
This is why i don’t read newspapers or watch the news. Truth is never on their agenda. Even plain facts are weaponized constantly as a way to make you live in fear and hate
Whatever happened to the Olympic ideals? Citius, Altius, Fortius, Communiter? Apparently, going faster, higher, stronger, together, wasn’t a factor here, somehow. The fact that some particular athlete tried to be the damn best they could, yet didn’t want a particular prize anway, was of no consequence according to the public.
Damn straight we should return to Olympic ideals, but I’m afraid that while we have dipshit gatekeepers, that’s going to take its time.
Stay away from the news. It’ll save your brain.
Not arguing but, you know all news organizations do this right? No matter which side of the isle they lean.
Yes, let’s name and shame all of it. Nothing wrong with also noticing the transphobic panic that fox news is constantly trying to create for no reason.
I support the message but damn is it annoying when people use proper punctuation but refuse to capitalize their letters. It’s so lazy, makes it hard to take them seriously. The shift key is right there.
written languages existed before capitalization, and they will continue to exist after capitalization
YES YES YES. Some linguistic part of my mind just had an orgasm.
