• SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world
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    Add Tibet, Xianchang, Manchuria, as separate countries and switch Inner Mongolia to being part of Mongolia and now we’re getting somewhere.

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      Taiwan didn’t even recognize Mongolia’s independence until 2002. Good luck getting the KMT to accept Tibet’s or Uyghurstan’s independence.

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        Next thing you know, Western Taiwan decides it’s time to make North Korea their brand new province, because “historic grounds” or something

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          My personal bet is they’ll go for Outer Manchuria. They still see the treaty of Aigun as an unequal treaty and as things stand the international community wouldn’t even bother writing a strongly worded letter if they decided to rectify it.

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        i mean considering taiwan’s position surely they’d be more than happy to get the mainland in return for letting some remote areas be independent?

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      IDK about Xinjiang but China’s current state of water security basically means no government of China will accept Tibetan independence without basically getting puppet state control over them.

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      The PRC and RoC share a lot of the same territorial disputes because they both view themselves as the one rightful Chinese government; they largely agree which land is “part of China”. It’s taking Taiwan’s side because it’s saying they should administer all of it.

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        Doesn’t Taiwan largely still do this in the modern day because revoking those claims would be equivalent to declaring its formal independence as a separate country, which is something China has threatened would be met with invasion?

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          I feel like “say this or I punch your teeth in” kind of takes some of the legitimacy out of the statement, don’t you?

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        both view themselves as the one rightful Chinese government

        This is a bit of an outdated view in my opinion. If you’re a KMT voter (ie. 60+), then sure, this is a common view. Younger generations (DPP voters) however don’t really view themselves as Chinese. I think this view will die out eventually.

        Of course, for the most part, this is all off the official record because of the implications. Chinese nationalists will argue that this is wrong because it’s still written in the Taiwanese constitution or whatever, but the truth is that regular people in Taiwan couldn’t give less of a shit about China. De facto, most Taiwanese consider themselves their own country with no legitimate claims to China.

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      kinda weird to say all Chinese citizens are cheaters. and by weird I mean OVERTLY RACIST.

      fuck the CCP but all 1.4 billion Chinese people are my homies. I aint gonna sit and listen to some little shit on lemmy call my homies cheaters

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        It’s somewhat racist, but it’s also got some truth to it. Anywhere internet cafés are a thing cheating tends to be more popular. They’re usually not using their own account, so there is no risk to cheating. Internet cafés are prevalent in China and Russia, so there’s a stereotype of them being cheaters. That’s not to say they all do it, but it’s more likely than most other places.

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        Yes. China has a huge hacking problem. Anytime there is a ban wave of hackers in just about any competitive online multiplayer game that Chinese players have access to, the vast majority of the IPs banned are Chinese. The gaming cafes over there even advertise hacks.

        It has to do with their culture. Chinese culture is very cutthroat and survival of the fittest. It makes people have the mindset of doing anything they can to win or be successful, even if it means cheating. It’s not just video games. They have a huge problem with it in their education system, as well. It’s also why there is so many cheap copies and counterfeits of different products made in China.

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        “Chinese people” aren’t known for being cheaters in games, except maybe by xenophobic anglophones. However, there are businesses in China that make a living through selling digital gaming items acquired through illegitimate means. Similar to how there are a lot of scam companies based in India - but that doesn’t mean “Indian people are cheaters”. People in India hate scammers too, and gamers in China hate game scammers.

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    Why people in the west care about this territorial conflict.

    It is clearly a strategic conflict for USA and allies to keep China at distance and reduce their ability to move further.

    But for people to keep talking about it like it is a ( good vs evil ) feels like propganda by USA military or something.

    If we imagine a world where china without Nuclear weapons, so Nato can stop them anytime, I dont think the USA media will care about them.

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    Nah, Taiwan only avoids forsaking these claims because doing so would be interpreted as a formal declaration of independence, prompting an invasion.

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    I’m so sick of this"West Taiwan" crap. It plays into the PRC narrative that China and Taiwan are inseparable. Most Taiwanese just want to live their lives without needing to worry about China invading. The official ROC territorial claims remain in part due to the 2005 Anti-Secession law of the PRC. The law provides a legal mandate to invade if Taiwan were to declare formal independence. In general the only people in Taiwan who want to govern China are older nationalists.