• cerement
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    7 months ago

    how dare the prisoners of a concentration camp strike back at their guards! for shame!

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      7 months ago

      As much as I disagree with the comment you’re responding to, this is such a bullshit characterization of Hamas’ initial and grotesque slaughter of random Israeli civilians. That behavior is never justified.

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        7 months ago

        So a distinction needs to be made here:

        Hamas soldiers committed a number of unforgiveable atrocities on October 7th. That said, the attack itself was against military targets for clear military and political goals, and until we get evidence to the contrary didn’t include orders to intentionally kill civilians. Again, not defending anyone who committed atrocities during or after the attack, but the idea that the 1200 were all mercilessly killed by Hamas is Israeli propaganda. 30% were IDF personnel, and out of the other 70% some died to reckless IDF fire (remember the helicopter that opened fire on the festival?), some died in the crossfire, and some were actually killed by the IDF to take out Hamas soldier who were taking them hostage.

        That is to say, October 7th wasn’t simply grotesque slaughter of random Israeli civilians, and we don’t have evidence Hamas leadership gave any orders for that.

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      7 months ago

      Your apology for terrorists and war crimes of the elected government of Gaza says everything.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah, I’m not going to disagree with the condemnation of the terrorist attack. That said, Israel has been, objectively, committing war crimes for decades now unpunished.

        Two wrongs don’t make a right, not justifying just explaining, and all that.

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        7 months ago

        your apology for terrorists and war crimes and settler colonialism and genocide by the elected government of Israel says everything

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          7 months ago

          I don’t. I call for the prosecution of Bibi and many Likud members for their war crimes before October.

          Would love to see them in the ICC.

          You must have confused me with the Hamas fans and apologists in here who support terrorism and war crimes and justify and apologize for it endlessly.