Other example would be “all men have penis”. Accusing someone for “faking their identity”.

    • 📛Maven@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      35·
      6 months ago

      I translate:

      be a biologist
      research clovers
      everyone says “clovers have 3 leaves”
      its a law of nature
      go outside
      find 4-leaf clover
      i better take it to court for violating laws of nature

      This is obviously stupid. Discovering something that violates a descriptive ‘law’ means the law was wrong. And yet, people do this in conversation all the time.

      Sometimes casual conversation begins with a “But”. E.g., someone might say “But anyway, have you seen that new movie Oppenheimer?”

      Grammar nazis react to this by saying “You can’t say ‘but’ at the start of a sentence if that sentence isn’t a rebuttal of the previous sentence! It’s a law of english!”

      ‘Laws’ of english are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive. But alas, we live in a society 😔

        • 📛Maven@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          21·
          6 months ago

          “I am annoyed when people correct me for using casual language. Doing so is stupid. Language isn’t static. The purpose of language is to be understood, so as long as you understood me, I did it ‘correctly’. Here is an analogy using plants.”

        • jak@sopuli.xyz
          9·
          6 months ago

          That grammar evolves naturally, like species do, so any rules we find for the categorization of either should reflect reality, not try to dictate it.

          For example, I just started that bit with a clause, which means it’s a fragment, not a sentence. I still put a period at the end of it and started it without any lead in, which is “wrong,” but it’s more that the rule is wrong, because what I wrote plays the role of a sentence in this case.

        • candybrie@lemmy.world
          7·
          6 months ago

          You can decide all clovers have 3 leafs. That doesn’t mean 4 leaf covers stop existing or are wrong.

          You can decide “but” is only for contradictions. That doesn’t mean people won’t use it other ways or it’s wrong.

          You can decide all men have penises. That doesn’t mean some won’t or that’s wrong.

          You deciding shit doesn’t actually change reality. And being pissy about it is as idiotic as suing 4 leaf clovers for you thinking they should only have 3 leafs.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deOP
      7·
      6 months ago

      It’s a Zen Koan.

      Basically, the meaning of it is “live your life proudly, and don’t let other people dictate whether your rules are right or wrong, because your rule just is”.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deOP
    14·
    6 months ago

    Note: I had posted this before from another account from another instance (feddit.de), but the federation seemed to be broken and the post didn’t show, I think. Sorry if it appears double in your feed.