That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    …so then you totally did understand, you just wanted someone to waste their time explaining it so you could immediately come back with jill stein nonsense. that was a dick thing to do.

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      Earned them -14 points, so they don’t really look very smart here. But as pointless as it all seems, we need to keep relaying the message of electoral reform to as many people as possible.

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        Their whole spiel relies on reaching literally any bystander they can. Definitely worth dissecting their bullshit.

        Anyone pushing for Stein, Gabbard, or the likes of any of these people is quite clearly trying to wedge-drive and there’s a decent probability they’re a Kremlin bot.

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          or maybe they’re someone whose life has been affected negatively by different Democrat and Republican laws and policies their whole life and are just looking for some alternative some other way out because they feel stuck in someone else’s country that does not want them there to begin with

          anyone who supports the Democrat or Republican corporate parties has never been directly affected by either enough to know otherwise and are lucky to live in that United States

          not allowed to vote and participate in this game so what do I know anyways right

          rather some other party besides the “two” because do not want either of the two in power so what good is wedge-driving to someone like me who actually wants change to occur not the same shit on a blue plate we are always served

          tired of eating that horse shit and cannot wait until the rest are too

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            If you know that much but not the mathematical trend toward a two-party system that does not, again mathematically, permit a 3rd-party candidate without risking the FAR WORSE candidate via spoiler, Donald Trump, then you are arguing in bad faith or young and naive.