• anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Clinton and her hubris handed Trump the election. Spoiler is a myth liberals create for themselves to try and vote shame. Earn our fucking votes or they can fuck off.

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      3 months ago

      No dude. No independent has won the presidency since the bullmoose party 100 years ago.

      Voting independent or not voting is an invitation for a republican president.

      You can bloviate all you want but facts are fucking facts.

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              3 months ago

              Ok so you demand respect but you’re also aware that an actual fascist wants you to abstain for any reason so he can fear monger his own base into putting him in the white house

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                You’ll need to specify if you’re talking about the red fascist or the blue fascist. They can either spend the time and earn votes or they can fuck off. Trump is the accumulation of 50 years of liberal lesser evil voting that has gotten so large someone like Trump was able to get into office.

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                  3 months ago

                  Ah yes, the good old “both sides are the same” logic.

                  I really feel like the word fascist has lost its connotation since the “both sides” crowd has fancied Biden the ideological same as Hitler or Mussolini.

                  What you’re enabling is an aspiring dictator, and you’re justifying it by throwing your hands in the air because the shitty system made the only viable alternative center-right.

                  Want to argue to me how Biden is somehow also a dictator and just as bad?

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      3 months ago

      Nothing to do with Russian interference either?

      According to the special counsel investigation’s Mueller Report (officially named “Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election”),[42] the first method of Russian interference used the Internet Research Agency (IRA), a Kremlin-linked troll farm, to wage “a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton”.[43] The Internet Research Agency also sought to “provoke and amplify political and social discord in the United States”.[44]

      The tactic was always to also shit as much on the competition as possible. They literally hacked her emails to do so.

      There is no doubt that the same thing is happening again right now.

      Can Biden be criticized for his behavior? Sure! Are bad faith actors piggybacking on this situation and amplifying the “Genocide Joe”-narrative ? Absolutely.

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      3 months ago

      spoiler is a myth liberals created for themselves to vote shame

      WE DID IT LEMMY, WE HAVE CIRCLED ALL THE WAY BACK TO “MATH IS A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!”

      FORGET HORSESHOE THEORY, WE JUST RING THEORIED THIS SHIT!

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        3 months ago

        Spoiler implies we would vote for a POS neolib politician if there were no other options. We would not.