• Steve
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      Thank you. And those are only the confirmed dead. There are thousands more missing and presumably dead under the rubble.

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        Or crippled for life, or orphaned, or both, or physically okay but with their home and the whole town they live in and many of their friends blown to scattered, dusty rubble.

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      Numbers according to Hamas. Read this:

      https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers

      I’m not denying that lots of civilians are dying in Gaza, that many are buried under rubble and starving - but please, don’t use numbers that are obviously false in order to create emotional outrage.

      One should also keep in mind that Hamas knew Israel would strike back with full force in response to the massacres and rapes they committed. And yet they didn’t build a single bomb shelter for civilians. There aren’t even air raid sirens in Gaza. This is the only war in human history where one side is fighting a nation with overwhelming air power and yet does absolutely nothing - hell, usually the opposite - to protect their civilians. They are also, right in the open, stealing aid and firing at desperate civilians, but I guess you choose to ignore this as well.

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        Your source’s first chart doesn’t match the actual OCHA numbers – look at October 31 for example; their dot is well above 8,000 while the OCHA chart shows 8,005.

        I didn’t dig too much into the other statistical arguments, because I didn’t see a link to the actual raw data in either place. Do you have links to the actual data? Usually my reaction to claims from a source I’ve never heard of is to test some of the things they’re saying against things I can verify, and tabletmag.com failed for the one thing I tested it on that way.

        I also found this article, which never mind what it says about the Iran deal, includes this fascinating little statement:

        They lied about an “insurrection” on Jan. 6, 2021, to justify designating one half of the country as domestic terrorists, in order to put their political opponents in jail.