• bleph@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Indeed, I am calling out to that sordid history.

      Are you REALLY saying you predict no difference in how Trump vs Biden would respond such a strike?

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        1 year ago

        Ultimately, no. The results will be the same. I don’t think Trump would call in air strikes on the SAG/ writers strike. As for the national guard, pinkertons, police; both would use available forces. They won’t allow instability to grow, it threatens the system and its money. Honestly, and this is just speculation, it might be better if it were Trump. Then people might get off their asses and fight back.

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          1 year ago

          Yeah that’s where we are very far apart.

          What do you think happens on Jan 20, '25 if he is elected? The president has essentially unlimited control over both the military and all federal law enforcement.

          Trump is angry and wounded.

          Do you think it’s just going to be a big farce like last time?

          Here’s a vivid description I think is much more likely.

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            1 year ago

            I read that and it agree it would be bad. And if it weren’t for climate change I would agree with keeping the status quo. There are too many variables to accurately predict which would be worse. Fascism now, or fascism later. It would be better for the planet to have fascism now. But it will suck for humanity. Fascism later might be better for humanity, but be bad for the planet. I vote for fascism later, purely for selfish reasons. But I empathize with those that want to burn it all down. To me, there is no easy answer. You may feel differently, and that should be respected.

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              1 year ago

              I happen to believe fascism isn’t inevitable, just has to be continually resisted. I also think that using fascism to describe anything that isn’t “pure” socialism removes all the meaning from the word and makes it less useful against people like Trump.

              I do, however, appreciate the good faith discussion and respect, I think we’re maybe getting some consensus haha