Is that why the imperialist United States of America has 750+ military bases in 80 countries? Lol the fucking hypocrisy dude

Conveniently, Israel treats all Palestinians as if they were Hamas militants (who themselves are a resistance group resisting modern settler colonialism). Hamas is a convenient reason for them to ethnically cleanse a whole people. How is that difficult to see as the wrong side?

You can’t just handwave Israel committing atrocity after atrocity after (but especially prior to) October 7th. It isn’t that difficult to see which side is the wrong side for anyone with a couple brain cells and a functioning moral compass. Colonialism was terrible in the past and it is terrible in the present. Genocide and apartheid are bad for anyone who are not racists. Pretty easy line there.

edit: also the person I responded to poorly defends Israel in every thread and regularly uses bad faith argumentative tactics to spin out more propaganda. That is partially why I felt the need to respond.

Yes, both the US and Russia use proxies in the middle east to fight each other and have for years. But that has little to do with Israel’s active genocide.

lol I wish I got paid some money for trying to talk some sense into pro war idiots on the internet.

edit: For real though, why is that your reaction to literal facts? Some of you are too fucking gone to reason with 😅

The US backed coup in 2014 and the threat of NATO expansion on it’s borders are some fairly obvious pieces of that puzzle but everybody here just claims “russian propaganda” when those facts are brought into the discussion.

Sorry, but both sides of the coin are the same. The military industrial complex has been abusing its power over the world for far too long. It is a cancer and it is terminal.

“The only democracy in the middle east” is a piece of shit and just as rotten as the military industrial complex. AIPAC is basically the military industrial complex using Israel to further its needs. It is not good for the Israeli citizens, Americans, or the Palestinians. It is also damaging to Jewish people worldwide because Israel is hiding behind fake antisemitism claims to shut down people speaking against their atrocities. Pretty obvious how that will be damaging in the long run.

Look at the UN findings on your dearly beloved. The “most morale army” practices systemic sexual abuse. And what do you know, ethnic cleansing?! It’s a bunch of Europeans/Americans cosplaying as middle eastern so they can do nazi shit.

I don’t expect you to comment on what is important because you routinely avoid topics you can’t twist to spin more propaganda out of. You need some flair that reads “Izzy shill” or “Fed” so people know what kind of person they are engaging with.

lol so now Russia is your reason why Israel is allowed to commit genocide? You’re political/moral compass is broken, mate.

People on here love this kind of propaganda dude lol

Throwing gasoline at a fire is not going to put it out.

The US and NATO recently authorized Ukraine to use Nato controlled weapons offensively. That is a global escalation that involves Nato member states for coordination. If you don’t think the escalation is growing then you aren’t actually paying attention.

There has been peace talks but there has been western pressure to decline the deals. The US doesn’t give a shit about what happens to Ukraine. Come on, they don’t even care about us (americans), their own citizens. Ukraine has been proxy to the US for a while and the US will use whatever proxy they have to do battle with Russia no matter the collateral damage.

There is a lot of propaganda on both sides of this conflict but everyone on lemmy and reddit gobble up the western propaganda without a doubt. Let’s put away the military boners and try for some actual fucking diplomacy.

To be honest, we should be pushing for peace there too. Ukraine is taking hits that they won’t recover from and it is quickly turning into a much bigger global conflict. We need less war and less war machines in the world, not more.

Jfc, can’t we just fire all of these demon encrusted maggot sacks already? The military industrial complex is a cancer on the world and basically all of our politicians are corrupt pieces of shit.

tldr: everything

I mostly see US based consent manufacturing propaganda and the military industrial complex foaming at the mouth. Maybe you have some credible sources that aren’t from a CIA cutout or state sponsored media? I will dig into it so don’t be shy.

But considering that we (the US) have surrounded their borders with military bases, would you blame them if they felt the need to bolster their military? (Probably, because you’re a hypocrite.)

lol you are always jumping to the extreme whenever I criticize the US even a little.

I didn’t “defend a dictatorship”, I correctly pointed out that the pandemic was handled terribly in the states, especially from the president, so it was a dumb thing to use as a metric for how a leader is doing. Trump was a fucking joke. He created a terrible situation and reaffirmed the antivaxxers. He was basically telling people to take crazy doses of ivermectin instead and implying it was all “fake news”. Maybe you don’t understand the entirety of that since you said yourself you “aren’t a US citizen” but for some reason you are always reaffirming our propaganda.

In regards to numbers, should we just believe state sponsored media or confirmed CIA startups like Radio Free Asia instead? They are usually listed as a source for these kinds of things despite the fact that their sole purpose for being created was to combat the spread of socialism.

The US is just a beacon of truth that would never lie about a socialist country or attempt to manufacture consent. /s

Yeah the US did way better…

“Baseless conspiracy theories” - makes baseless claim.

My wife has a very similar experience. Sometimes I feel bad about it like I am messing up part of her identity but I just want to be supportive.

I’ve seen some USS liberty stuff. Pretty crazy that they even let those dudes live to tell the tale.

I saw someone say Israel is just Britain, France, and the US in a trench coat and it is way too accurate 😂

The US gov wants everyone to pretend that they are the true beacon of peace and democracy as they go around bullying other countries for their lunch money.

Look at the hague invasion act passed in 2002. They have always known that the court might hold them accountable for malicious acts in the region.

Imagine the US invading the Netherlands to protect war criminals. Absolutely no global credibility after that.