Let’s put some life into this sub. I don’t think degrowth is possible under capitalism because the imperative to degrow contradicts the capitalist drive for the creation of value (valorization) which must always grow under capitalism’

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    10 months ago

    If I may enter the discussion. I think it’s very very hard but may be possible. Let’s say people only buy new things when it’s something they need and the things itself should work for a long time, like generations. It reduces consumerism, things would only be replaced if something greatly superior appeared. Some things would still be bought so there is still some capitalism but wouldnt be focused on mindless spending in junk. Things would be more expensive but overall we’d have better things.

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        10 months ago

        Fair enough. Degrowth from capitalism to market economy is more of an obtainable goal

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          10 months ago

          Maybe if everyone had access to roughly the same wealth, market economy could be a good method of balancing economy ?

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              10 months ago

              True. But there has been experiments, especially around melting currencies (is that the correct English name ?).

              A recent example (in French, but I guess automatic translators are good enough now ?) : https://monnaie-libre.fr/

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                10 months ago

                Thank you for that, I wasn’t aware that was a thing! I’ll bookmark that to read later as it seems a bit long! I didn’t even know melting currencies were a thing

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                  10 months ago

                  Such is the power of economic orthodoxy - to trick you into thinking there is no alternative, that economic laws are laws of nature when they are “only” social constructions …