This is not true. Germany was reliant on coal (locally mined lignite and imported regular coal) and in the last 20 years or so they made the deliberate decision to try and replace the coal with natural gas.
In the early 2000 they were on a good track to replace a large percentage of the coal electricity production with solar and wind energy, but then the new conservative government under Merkel took power and deliberately killed that off to please their big business energy producers. That was a purely political choice and technically it would have been perfectly feasible to switch to near 100% renewables for electricity production if the installation capacity would have been retained.
I’d like to see actual sources showing total energy consumption in Germany, including all the industry, and how that would be met with 100% renewables today even if the plans from 2000 weren’t shelved.
I very specifically stated electricity production. Full replacement is sadly not possible as long as the structure of society is as it is. Please learn to read :p
You do realize that industry relies on electricity production. In fact, industry tends to account for far higher electricity consumption than domestic use.
Yes and Germany is already able to cover 100% electricity needs (including industry) with renewables on windy and sunny days, despite the massive lack of storage and political sabotage of new installations and transfer capacity.
The industries with some problems right now are those that need fossil fuels either directly as inputs or because it was cheaper than electricity to heat with it and thus their existing large scale equipment doesn’t work with electricity.
Like I said, let’s see the actual lifecycle numbers that include the total energy consumption per year, the energy costs of producing and maintaining the renewables, as well as the cost of energy storage for days when it’s not sunny or windy. The compare these totals with the renewable infrastructure outputs. You’re doing a lot of hand waving here.
I’m not changing any topics here. Let me try use simpler language to help you understand what’s being said. I challenge your claim that renewables alone are able to match Germany’s electricity production coming from fossil fuels today when you look at the totality of electricity consumption, the operating cost of renewable infrastructure, and the cost of energy storage.
I asked you to provide supporting sources for that claims you’re making. Now you’re weaseling as you always do. Please try for once to read and understand what others are writing :(
It truly pointless discussing with you if you do not even try to read what others are saying. I didn’t say anything of what you claim I did. I understand perfectly well what you are saying, but you are responding to things I never claimed, so how am I supposed to react to that?
This is not true. Germany was reliant on coal (locally mined lignite and imported regular coal) and in the last 20 years or so they made the deliberate decision to try and replace the coal with natural gas.
In the early 2000 they were on a good track to replace a large percentage of the coal electricity production with solar and wind energy, but then the new conservative government under Merkel took power and deliberately killed that off to please their big business energy producers. That was a purely political choice and technically it would have been perfectly feasible to switch to near 100% renewables for electricity production if the installation capacity would have been retained.
I’d like to see actual sources showing total energy consumption in Germany, including all the industry, and how that would be met with 100% renewables today even if the plans from 2000 weren’t shelved.
I very specifically stated electricity production. Full replacement is sadly not possible as long as the structure of society is as it is. Please learn to read :p
You do realize that industry relies on electricity production. In fact, industry tends to account for far higher electricity consumption than domestic use.
Yes and Germany is already able to cover 100% electricity needs (including industry) with renewables on windy and sunny days, despite the massive lack of storage and political sabotage of new installations and transfer capacity.
The industries with some problems right now are those that need fossil fuels either directly as inputs or because it was cheaper than electricity to heat with it and thus their existing large scale equipment doesn’t work with electricity.
Like I said, let’s see the actual lifecycle numbers that include the total energy consumption per year, the energy costs of producing and maintaining the renewables, as well as the cost of energy storage for days when it’s not sunny or windy. The compare these totals with the renewable infrastructure outputs. You’re doing a lot of hand waving here.
No, you are trying to change the topic and arguing against a strawman again. Please try for once to read and understand what others are writing :(
I’m not changing any topics here. Let me try use simpler language to help you understand what’s being said. I challenge your claim that renewables alone are able to match Germany’s electricity production coming from fossil fuels today when you look at the totality of electricity consumption, the operating cost of renewable infrastructure, and the cost of energy storage.
I asked you to provide supporting sources for that claims you’re making. Now you’re weaseling as you always do. Please try for once to read and understand what others are writing :(
It truly pointless discussing with you if you do not even try to read what others are saying. I didn’t say anything of what you claim I did. I understand perfectly well what you are saying, but you are responding to things I never claimed, so how am I supposed to react to that?