I often see mentions of the disunity in the left and it being a real show stopper for achieving anything meaningful. Whats your take on that and also do you have any reasons(experiences, arguments etc) for that?

  • CounselingTechie
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    4 months ago

    The best way I have learned to perceive it is that those of the “left” are best akin to a set of islands, loosely connected in that they are close enough to each other in range. Just like how different islands have different cultures, ecosystems, terrains, you find that the different groups of people of the “left” are that way, with their sole united fact being that they aren’t the “other side”; however, when you ask where the line of the other side is, they all mark the line at a different point, some even going to far as to say those on the other lines are part of that “other side.”

    In my own experiences, I have seen this in discussions of equity, especially racial equity as a person who is mixed race, equity and rights for those who are LGBTQIA+ as a person who is part of the acronym, and the care for the environment.

    I sadly have no true solution for this issue. People almost strive on the idea of disunity, being the sole group that has their perception of the proper answer, the single truth, and developing inane criteria to compare others to that aren’t part of their same group, solely to justify hating them.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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      4 months ago

      I think we significantly underestimate the brainpower and experience/knowledge needed to come to this conclusion.

      My journey from poor immigrants child growing up in a dysfunctional, violent, alcoholic family sent me from fascist ideology (ikr?!) to center, to left, to anarchism. On my way I lost so many people I cant count them for the life of me.

      The first ones stayed with the fascists. They were my friends but they didnt get why immigrants werent our problem. Then the centrists who didnt want to let go of papa musk and worshipping the rich, then those who think autocracy painted as communism would be great.

      But to come to that conclusion we need to allow ourselves to be insecure and wrong which is more than 99% of the people I ever met can bear. They need easy answers, need to be able to boast their view at the regular table with their friends after 3 liters of beer (obvious exaggeration).

      This is of course just my opinion and every one of these people would give you a lot of reasons why they disagree with me, which I can live with. I‘m curious to hear your opinion (I just ask you stay respectful).

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        4 months ago

        Your statement I honestly agree with. I deal with this at my work a lot with coworkers. There is a major push against self-accountability, and the push for self-growth. Some accept the perspective that they are the only ones with a correct answer, and that those who don’t provide an echo chamber are wrong because of some inherent trait, examples being age or culture most commonly in my experiences.

        I often wonder when fully it started. I see those in their 40s to 50s with it strongly affecting them, but just as strongly I see those in theirs 60s to 70s, and those in their early 20s and like me are in their early 30s. There seems to be no easy discernable pattern for finding a solution.