• Flumpkin
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    The fucking orcs

    were setting up whites only bars

    This is so confusing, are we for or against racism?

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        I’ve had this talk so many times, it’s a simple lesson but it needs repeating.

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          It may be a conversation worth having in a 1 to 1, but internet denizens crave hate and hate as much as they can when they can.

          Usually I get downvoted for “let’s come together” comments that say things like all Israelis and Russians shouldn’t die in a fire, because they are not all bad, when people are calling for culling them. The internet is weird.

          A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. - Agent Kay

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            It’s Russian people who allow Putin to commit his shit

            It’s Israelis who allow their government commit the shit

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              It’s the Mongols who allowed Ghengis Khan to commit his shit.

              Uh oh, now you should be worried considering his lineage is in most of us. Those damn Mongol ancestors of yours. Why were your ancestors so complicit in the rape and pillage of continents? I think that makes you complicit, too, by your logic.

              Pitchforks at the ready everyone.

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                  That’s my point. Neither is Putin. Netanyahu’s approval ratings are rock bottom.

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                    And the majority of Palestinians in Gaza weren’t even BORN the last time Hamas allowed elections, let alone old enough to vote!

                    99% of the times atrocities are committed by the powerful few, it’s against the will of the powerless many. Not least because the latter are also the ones who bear the brunt of the suffering.

                    But yeah, bigots gonna take any chance at more socially acceptable bigotry, I guess 😮‍💨

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                    Yet they voted him in multiple times over decades full well knowing who he is.

                    And how much of his approval rating is only low because he didn’t have enough people on the Gaza border to stop the attack? They don’t care about what happens to Palestinians, the majority support it, they care that they were allowed to be attacked instead of being the attackers like usual.

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                Find me one person who got their trip to the “Homeland” who isn’t cheering for Gazan genocide? Obviously anecdotes, but numerous people I went to high school with have been posting horrendous shit since all this kicked off

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        It’s not “few” orcs that have crossed the border to Ukraine. It’s not “few” orcs celebrating the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine. It’s the collaborative efforts of a nation

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          Should i blame you because your government openly support genocide in gaza? I could but we both know that the government and people in power are the ones to blame, most people are feed up on the propaganda these criminals spread to gain wealth and power.

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            That entirely depends on whether OP you’re replying to cheers for the destruction of Gaza and their government being complicit in it.

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            I assume you take me as American? I do think it’s fair to call out how dumb they’re voting, as it’s fair to do with Finland too

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        Russian is an ethnicity. Bigotry against an ethnicity is not different in any meaningful way from bigotry against a race. Referring to it as racism may be technically incorrect but it get the right idea across.

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          no one’s asserting ALL russians - Navalney was a hero for example.

          But the country is run by a shitstain of a human being; calling them orcs or chuds is certainly justified by their warcrime actions.

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        Race in humans is a fictional construct. Doesn’t exist scientifically.
        So logically, racism can’t exist either.

        Hey, did we just solve racism???

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          Just because angels, gods, gremlins and Eskimos are imaginary doesn’t mean that people can’t be afraid of them.

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            You must be trolling because Eskimos aren’t imaginary. I use their tax software every year when I go to file my return.

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            Racism has always been about inequality and dehumanizing people. It was always a constructed or mythological fixed identity.

            But that’s not funny. That’s just sad.

            It’s not funny like calling them orcs.

            But that comment is 85% upvoted so clearly I’m wrong and that can’t be racism. Hey, maybe I have brain bleeds from long covid. Honestly that would be preferable to this shit. “Russians aren’t really hur hur hur”. Fucking racist morons.