Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting Saturday with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Washington will not allow for the forced relocation of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip.
“Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza,” Harris said, according to a statement from the vice president’s office.
Gaza Strip is not occupied by Israel for almost 20 years. Israel still supplied many services.
According to the UN it’s an occupation. And if it’s not, then we need a new word for when your territory’s boarder, governance, access to critical resources, and military capabilities are all dictated by another country.
Source for that claim about the UN? Cus Israel left Gaza Strip in 2005.
As for the rest of your comment, boarders are always also controled by others parties. I don’t have to let you access my house. Both Israel and Egypt are free to chose how much they trade with Gaza.
Hamas was the government of Gaza. Up till they started a war with Israel.
Access to what resources? Water? Hamas, the government of Gaza Strip, decided that bombs are more important than water. .
As for your last claim, Israel doesn’t dictates the military capabilities of Gaza Strip. If Israel had a say, Gaza Strip would have had no military capabilities.
https://www.unocha.org/occupied-palestinian-territory
I’m really not concerned with debating symantics, though. All people deserve the right to access food, water, power, etc… and live and move freely and govern themselves with dignity. Palestinians have been deprived these rights, and that has to change.
Hamas deprives Gazans from that, Hamas’ people executed gays, people from other parties, people that want economic cooperation with Israel, etc.
We agree on that. I think where we may disagree is in where we want to go from here.
I don’t know your preferences, but typically when I encounter people following this line of inquiry they only seem interested in criticizing Hamas’ abuse of Palestinians only in so far as it justifies Netanyahu’s abuses.
Does your concern for the Gazans who suffer under Hamas extend any further than its usefulness as a rhetorical device? If so, let’s link arms in demanding a ceasefire and a political solution which can finally deliver the safety for Israelis and Palestinians that the Israeli far right has so long kept from all of us. Let’s demand justice against Hamas leadership in the international criminal court instead of giving them the violence that is their goal. Let’s not give them what they want and punish their victims further.
If not, so be it.
There won’t be international court based response to Hamas leadership, it is very naive to think otherwise. Just look at Israel’s northern border and UN SC resolution 1701.
I don’t agree with anything Netanyaho did for the past 15 years, not that I can think of the top of my head. However, I understand Israel’s brutal response to the attack. I don’t WANT it, but I understand it.
What I do want ? I want Gazans raising up against Hamas. I want Israelis going back to their weekly demonstrations till Netanyaho’s government will fall. Then I want Israelis to wake the fuck up and kick the settlers out from the West Bank, decide on final boards and stay there. Treating any Israeli that tries to settle on some hilltop in the West Bank as a terrorist. And when Israel leaves the West Bank they need to hand over the keys to the Palestinians, cus when they left Gaza they demolished what they built.
After that each group can live it own life, leaving the other one the fuck alone. The peaceful ones will create trade and friendship.
Maybe something crazier happens like Israeli and Palestinians trade land so Gaza and the West Bank will be on continued land, don’t know.
But religous nut jobs and sociopaths from both camps need to be kicked the fuck out of power.
That the wishful thinking, I however think that Hezbollah will not go back from the boarder, war will happen, Israel will have to split the fire power between two fronts. Meaning that it will be less accurate and much, much more civilians will get hurt. After that bloody war crazy Christian Evengalists will use their money to rebuild Israel as a crazier, more violent version that they wish for.
I’m happy to admit that I misjudged you. I think we agree on more than I expected.
Even though it all feels hard to imagine, I’m going to continue to demand a peace that may seem impossible.