“We will continue to actively engage in the hard work of direct diplomacy on the ground until we reach a Final Solution.”

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Except that this isn’t football at lunch. This is a conversation about a party which supports genocide, versus another party that would also support a genocide. I’m not going to be able to influence the Republicans by withholding my vote. I’m not going to be able to influence the Democrats by offering my vote implicitly.

    I might be able to influence the Democrats by witholding my vote.

    The Democrat you are insisting I vote for IS PARTY TO GENOCIDE. Not hypothetically, not maybe in the future. The guy we have right now, the genocide happening right now.

    Real. Right now. This guy.

    The data we actually have says that voting Democrat isn’t sufficient to stop a genocide. Maybe voting republican isn’t either. We don’t have data on that.

    Its not my job to carry water for a genocidal party and their sycophants; you think its yours.

    And guess what? All that water carrying, years of it, its not working. The Democrats are further right than they’ve ever been.

    When a strategy doesn’t work, you change your approach.

    In doing so I find myself party with Rashida Talib, Ro Khanna, Abraham Aiyash (second ranking Democrat in Michigan House).

    All of them are asking people to write in “No Confidence”.

    If you think you can keep handing your vote to Democrats implicitly while demanding nothing for it, and they’ll just magically find their way to your policy position, you are delusional. Do know why Republicans cater to their voters insane desires? Because if they don’t, Republican voters drop them like a sack of shit. Withholding your vote is one of the only and most effective ways to move elected officials to your policy positions.

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      Guess we should all just not vote and hand our democracy to its killers. Allllll because you don’t understand how foreign policy works and how little control Biden actually has over Israel.

      But go ahead, hand the election to the magadonians I’m sure they won’t be party to genocide in Israel AND Ukraine!!!

      It’s so neat how you get to choose which genocide matters btw.

      It’s literally Biden or Trump and you are here throwing out 3rd party votes and the like. Have you seen any of the primaries???

      So your goddamn duty as a citizen and vote for the least shit person like the rest of us. Get of your goddamn high horse and stop holding your vote ransom.

      You say your vote is up for grabs yet you won’t vote for anyone that isn’t perfect.

      Get a fucking grip, grow the fuck up. The world isn’t easy binary choices, sorry kid. At least you chose an apt username, you fucking nonce

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        You say your vote is up for grabs yet you won’t vote for anyone that isn’t perfect.

        Biden cutting off arms supply to Israel wouldn’t make him perfect by any stretch of the imagination. You’re being ridiculous.