My homies. Because they got my back, and I theirs.

E: Shout out to all the local SRA’s, JBGC’s and anyone and everyone else taking community defense seriously

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    I’m no maga type but I am a 2nd amendment supporter and I would tell you to never call the cops. There’s no situation they can’t make worse. I watch a few cop accountability/transparency channels and man do cops hate the 1st and 4th amendments.

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      I’m not an american, but I think calling the cops can be usefull with some smaller problems, like if some kid steals something from you. They’re mostly usefull for intimidation tho. But overall the cops in my country aren’t that bad, but when someone breaks into your house you just don’t have the time to wait for the cops.

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        My car got stolen, the only reason we called the cops is because the insurance said we had to.

        Then we got the police report, apparently the cops saw the car zoom past them at twice the speed limit with a broken window. So gave chase, in which the perps went high speed through a suburban area, crashed into someone’s property, destroying a fence, gave chase on foot but didn’t want to follow them into an abandoned building, and then, when two people dressed similarly emerged from the building, couldn’t do anything because they weren’t sure it was the same people.

        Literally how the guards work in Skyrim.

        So they actively made the situation worse, delayed the insurance process by destroying the car more, (twice as then we had to wait for the second report) endangered others, destroyed more property, and then didn’t do anything to help in the end.

        It would’ve been entirely better to just have insurance deal with it and not involve the police at all.

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        I’m not an american,

        That’s the thing.

        When you call the police in the United States there is a very real chance they’ll kill whoever you call them to punish. And a smaller but nonzero chance they’ll kill you or an innocent third party.

        Not because the police are all inherently evil. But because they’re heavily armed, and policing in a country that’s also heavily armed, and that makes every police encounter more dangerous for everyone than it is in a country with rational gun laws.

        US cops are trained to consider their lives at risk every time they go out on a call, and they are ready and willing to shoot to protect themselves. So if they’re threatened - or they feel threatened - they may shoot instead of de-escalate.

        So before you call the police in the US you have to ask yourself: is whatever just happened - theft, trespassing, vandalism, whatever - worth someone’s life to punish?

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          in a country with rational gun laws

          This kinda sounds like you’rr anti gun rights, which is fair enough considering the crime rate in your country, but if that’s the case I have to dissapoint you, your lawmen got more problems than guns.

          I live in austria and the only requirement here to buy a repeater, bolt-action rifle and double barrel shotgun are:

          • you have to be 18
          • you aren’t on the no guns list
          • you have a secure storage for your gun (like a safe or armored locker)
          • you have to wait 2 weeks
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      Well i figure you gotta call 911 after you kneecap the crackhead you found in your garage 🤷‍♀️

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        You can 100% get sued for intentionally shooting someone in a leg and causing them disability. If you really believe your life is in danger you should be shooting center mass which is what they train you in concealed carry classes. I tend to carry mostly in bear country, but if I had to shoot someone out in the woods who was attacking me, can’t say I would tell anybody. They’d never find them.