• poVoqA
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    61 year ago

    Come on… we went through the argument already. Nuclear is producing electricity only, Germany is already at about 50% electricity production from renewable sources without much Nuclear left as I have shown you with plenty of sources last time.

    Sure, there is a lot of shitty stuff going on with German energy policy, but there are plenty of viable renewable alternatives to Nuclear when it comes to electricity production.

    Please stop repeating the same easily disprovable falsehoods over and over again.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      31 year ago

      We did go through this, and saw that the current amount of overall energy produced via renewable sources is around 18%. Claiming that renewables can provide a general alternative to nuclear is unfounded. Please stop repeating the same easily disprovable falsehoods over and over again.

      • poVoqA
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        41 year ago

        Stop moving goal-posts all the time. Nuclear is also only producing electricity!

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              21 year ago

              Using ad hominem as a form of argument really underscores the fact that you don’t have any actual point to make. You keep accusing me of spreading falsehoods every time I catch you lying. Really says a lot about you.

              • poVoqA
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                31 year ago

                You just keep moving goal-posts and mis-defining common concepts to fit your agenda. That is pure bad-faith discussion style. And I challenge you to find even a single instance of me lying, because there is none, so stop spreading falsehoods about me.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                  11 year ago

                  What goal posts am I moving here? I said that renewables fall far short from meeting overall energy needs, and there is no basis for claiming that they could. Meanwhile, I provided you with a source explaining that nuclear can in fact be used for energy needs other than electricity production. You literally lied claiming otherwise in this very thread.

                  You keep trying to artificially restrict the discussion to electricity production while that’s only a small portion of overall energy consumption in Germany. It’s obvious to any rational person that it’s the overall energy production that’s important as opposed to one specific sector of it. There are no credible plans to replace overall fossil fuel usage with renewables in Germany. Trying to focus conversation away from that is dishonest.

                  • poVoqA
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                    21 year ago

                    You said “there is no viable alternative to nuclear that actually works and can replace fossil fuels at scale”, which is a pure falsehood as nuclear can’t do that either. Nuclear can replace fossil fuels for electricity production and so can renewables (and at a lower cost with less environmental damage).

                    And when I pointed that out you suddenly moved goal-posts to overall energy use, which is totally besides the point and again nuclear can also not replace that, not even close. Those examples of non-electricity producing nuclear use are laughable and not feasible at scale nor are they actually done anywhere AFAIK. That is like saying solar-power can also be beamed from space. Yes technically it can rolleyes